Cloudy Waters: Clinton Foundation Accomplishments - Page 4

It is the size of the donation and not which cause, that really will amount to the same thing, as long as Hillary has a powerful political title and caché. 

Chelsea would logically be next in line to follow the family vocation. 

The Clinton Foundation initiative(s) then, is just like branding their name, same as Trump's name is his branding. The Clinton name branding commands outrageously lucrative speaking fees in the private sector. 

So, the House of Mirrors pays top dollar to their board and other employees. It pays for the Clintons' posh travel, entertainment and social  schedule, and provides the branding for their personal wealth building.

Oh, and certainly somebody in need eventually is receiving some program benefits, it just is very hard to figure out exactly who that is and how much they might have received. I would think the Clinton's would have thought to make a PR piece with a thankful recipient being interviewed just to drive home their mission point. If you know of one, let me know!

You seem so hung up on how much they make to speak. I don't get it. If someone wants to pay them to speak obviously they see value in it or they would not pay it. So what if they get paid to speak. Most of what they do if I understand it is help 3rd world populations, oh like say woman's health, health initiatives, I posted some of those things in the article you just blew off. What I think is really a co-inky dink is how time after time you have stuck up for or dismissed the things Trump does and says but man you are questioning the Clintons because someone wants to pay to hear what they have to say. Trump is the biggest liar, racist, bigoted, big mouth, fraudulent, misogynist pig to ever run for President in our lifetimes but because he is a republican, you can't even see it and have over and over defended him and made excuses, yes excuses for his behavior. Then you have the first woman to ever have a real chance at being President and you pick at how much people pay them to hear what they have to say, get over it. This is capitalist country and every past President has the right to charge to give speeches if they so chose to charge for that service. GET OVER IT ALREADY! How much has your foundation given away? Wait a second here, I think you are a tad bit jealous here, wow, is that it? The woman jealousy thing. LMFAO.

My turn to SMH at that rant! Just because Hillary is a woman, I owe her? That is so funny, it is sad. You should compare Jimmy Carter to the Clinton's regarding speaking fees and philanthropy. Then tell me who is in bed with the devil.

Lol at jealousy. My turn for a chuckle. I won't say how much because of privacy issues and then you would just accuse me of bragging.

Bee, that info is probably public if I really wanted to dig. Yes, you seem very jealous of her success. A lot of woman can't have real female friends because the claws get in the way. I am beginning to feel that about you. Sorry.

Of course you can dig, but I want to remain private here, so I am not going public and as Admin I trust you will respect that.

As far as blowing off your link, I just double backed and checked it again and it doesn't state any real measurable ways of proof in doing any thing! Just, staff lowered cost, staff helped plant seeds! Vagueness, always.

I have plenty of female friends. I just like ones that are genuine, not fakers or users. I certainly am not jealous of Hillary, no reason to be! That is just too funny.

Oh and one more thing. I abandoned Trump quite some time back, you should try to keep up for accuracies sake, and remember that, so I don't have to keep correcting you.

Deep down you are jealous and deep down you would welcome a Trump presidency. When you are in that booth, I would bet Trump is your guy. BTW, I would never post personal information because that could get me in big trouble and I prefer to go out on my own terms.

You are way off base and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't make things up about me that you can not possiblty know. You keep trying to make stuff up like that because you wish it were true. Then it would make hating me easy, and give you a set up for attack.

I could say you are jealous? Hmm?

I know you are a good Admin about member privacy. Thanks.

Bee, honestly it is the way your posts come off to me. I sense some subconsience jealousy issue. Did you know that Hillary is actually more conservative than Trump? http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/hillary-clinton-2016-wellesley-president-214188

What you are sensing is lack of respect. NOT jealousy. Seriously, I don't need money and Bill just doesn't do it for me, either.

And yes, I did know that Hillary started off politcally, a Republican activist. Her father was a strong Republican supporter, so I understand her wanting to please daddy at such a young age. I did the same thing, taking calculus and chemistry, biology and economic courses when I really am much better suited with my personality, and in using my artistic talents, just because my dad was an organic chemisty scientist with a Masters from Stanford University.

I had started to read that artilcle just before you posted it, btw. You admire Hillary, and her stance to be middle of the road, note taking from the sidelines, consensus maker, and avoidance of extreme commitments or expression. How she will have a flower painted on her chin, that should be enough to fit in with most people.

Okay, so she isn't inherently evil, just not someone I admire or respect to be a leader of the USA. She isn't a person with true vision, an individual capable of standing on her own sense of conviction. She needs to get that from everyone else. I thought it was very interesting that the artist in the article, felt what I do, and now call her trademark ways,  "The House of Mirrors" :

“I just couldn’t get her to reveal anything,” said Laura Grosch, a fellow Wellesley student who spent three one-hour sessions painting Rodham’s portrait.

Grosch was a junior and an art history major—she’s now a professional artist living in North Carolina—and Rodham was a freshman. They lived in the same Davis Hall dorm. Grosch wanted the practice and some extra money—she charged 30 bucks—and Rodham volunteered.

“I didn’t really know Hillary until she asked me to paint her portrait,” Grosch said in an interview last week. Over the course of the sessions, she tried through informal conversation to tease out of Rodham some essential truth to inform her painting, “something poetic”—but it was a challenge. 

Now, as for Trump. He will lose. He can't get out of his own way, he only relates with himself: "The Bull in the China Shop". He hasn't any depth of substance or finesse, only bravado. He also isn't the devil incarnate, just an ego maniac who thinks he can do and be the best at anything, even POTUS. 

You think I agree with him, because of one point only: The PC disease that I don't hanker with following, and refuse to be bullied about. It pisses people off. It pisses you off. Now, I know you and Noitsyou made fun of Joan posting that Chicago Univ. letter because she used the Briebart site link which I don't even read but then was subtley sought out for an accusation.

However, all the major news outlets also carried that letter, too. It was denounced by the regular lefties, who if they can't bully people, or shame them, always resort to marginalizing. I never heard of such babying tactics ...safe places? trigger warnings?... back when I was in college during the dark ages. Art school critiques were intended to be devasting personally and emotionally because, life is just not very kind at times. One needs to learn how to thrive and survive, despite azhats who might also be professors, or just other students, and not rely on shelters of escape to prop up coddled ego's, or the individual challenges one may have been dealt. If one has a debilitating medical or mental condition, then maybe certain higher institutes of learning won't be a good match, and it should be up to each individual to make the right choice that fits with their needs. Not force their issues to take precedence on other individuals in order to make them fit.

I am deaf in one ear. Sometimes I get left out of a conversation. It doesn't feel good. I learned to get to the table first, and claim my best spots. I am good at that. Occassionally, I miss that opportunity. I can ask someone to switch with me, or I suck it up for the evening. That is just too bad for me. I certainly would never demand a permanent, reserved spot even if it would solve the problem for me.