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by beetree on 03 July 2016 - 18:07
You really did go beyond the realms of reality— thinking Obama will manage another term. That is not a possible consideration, even by Obama's position of power. Mostly, he doesn't need to be in office to protect his initiatives with Hillary all set to take over. She will not chip away at his programs, and will only add her own.
Healthcare reform was supposed to be her big accomplishment and lasting contribution to change US social basics, but she couldn't make that happen with Bill in charge. Obama got his Obamacare passed so she will only protect it, even though the data and the plan realities aren't bearing their fruit as was hoped and planned.
I think comparing any of our politicians to Hitler is a bit beyond the pale. I don't see Obama or Trump, or any of them in the mass murdering role that Hitler occupied.
This is one heck of a weird thread.
by Noitsyou on 04 July 2016 - 00:07
-Both Hitler and Obama hid their real identies. Hiter had a Jewish ancestry, and Obama a Muslim one."
This is the type of person I feel sorry for. I also feel even more sorry for the US as there are too many people like this.
History? Whether or not Obama was born here, it isn't an historical fact he wasn't. It's a view held by uniformed people who can't tell the difference between fact and opinion. Breitbart can say whatever they want and it can all be false, legally. I don't understand why some people are incapable of judging "news" sources in an educated manner. Oh yeah, I do understand, it's called confirmation bias.
Hitler had Jewish ancestry? That is something that some have claimed but it has never been proven true. Again, we see something that isn't a fact being stated as such.
Obama hid his Muslim ancestry? First off, Islam is not genetic so it can't be inherited, unlike Jewish ancestry. There is no DNA test for Islam. If his father was a Muslim he wouldn't have "Muslim blood" and since his father left him when he was 2 I doubt he could have indoctrinated him. With that said, Obama has never hid who his biological father was or who his mother's second husband was. By most accounts his biological father was an atheist.
And contrary to popular belief he was sworn into office on two Bibles, not the Koran. He also eats pork, supports gay rights, and owns a dog.
If the first of your historical "facts" are wrong then I don't think I need to bother with the rest.

by mrdarcy on 04 July 2016 - 05:07
by beetree on 04 July 2016 - 10:07
This is the type of person I feel sorry for. I also feel even more sorry for the US as there are too many people like this.
No need to feel sorry for Red Sable or the US. She is Canadian. 😉
True, that she is convinced and unyielding in her worry and waiting: that the rapture and Illuminati NWO grand plan will happen any day now. I often indulge her need to ramble on by ignoring most of it because she is still otherwise, a decent hearted person.
by Noitsyou on 04 July 2016 - 16:07
I also still feel sorry for the US because she still speaks English and can spread that bullcrap in America.

by Hundmutter on 04 July 2016 - 17:07
... and around the world. English is still spoken and understood more than any other language, if I recall correctly; even where it is not an 'official' language. Certainly (normally) understood & spoken in England. We have internet access too, for our sins! You need to feel sorry for more than just America, noitsyou.
by Noitsyou on 04 July 2016 - 18:07

by Hundmutter on 04 July 2016 - 20:07

by Red Sable on 04 July 2016 - 22:07
by Noitsyou on 04 July 2016 - 23:07
That has to be one of the dumbest persons I have ever heard. He should probably learn American history before commenting on it. He says that slavery ended 150 years ago. OK, but the civil rights act was passed 100 years after slavery. So what was going on in the meantime?
Ans sorry, but I don't measure my country against third world nations to show how great it is. I set my standards higher than being better than Somalia. I would rather look at Western Europe or Japan when setting standards.
Also, America didn't GIVE women the right to vote. Women had to fight for it. America didn't end slavery. That took a war. And in order to end it we had to have it in the first place. We also weren't the first country to ban slavery.
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