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by steve1 on 26 May 2011 - 05:05
So becoming of the people of whom they say they belong to a great nation. Well Guys who would have thought you were part of the USA, No to myself or anyone else outside you are bloody terrible in the way you are acting, and there were little more than 20 views on the subject before i CUT it OFF most of you never even saw it,
Yet in that short time you are at each other Hammer and Tongs and not even talking about the subject i put on here.
Just the one man that some of you want to hang from the nearest tree like the old days of the West, Now we are getting the religious Nuts getting in again, i never spoke of religion why is it being bought up.
I will tell some of you people who are against him the real reason you dislike him and his family. YOU are a load of RACIST people, you will not admit it but you are, the same ones from similar threads start each time that speaks for its self. Nothing will change that attitude that is born in you, but the sooner you accept it the better it will be for your country.
No one is perfect except you Guys who very much border on hate towards this President of yours and you are only a few how many more in the USA think the same as you do,
My one wish is that given time this VERY good man does what he says he wants to do. and then you Racist people can then hide your faces, But i hope i live long enough to see it happen because you will be constantly reminded at every opportunity and you will be named, so all can see who you really are
Mods
is it possible to reinstate the original letter i put on here many genuine people want to see it.
The Racists do not need to reply and if you do not know who you are i can soon tell you
Steve1

by Keith Grossman on 26 May 2011 - 13:05
"Obama is trying to put pressure on Israel to go back to their 1967 boundaries."
That is a lie. Obama never said that Israel should retreat to its 1967 borders; he said that the discussions should begin with those borders as their basis, then include, "mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states." Reading comprehension is your friend.

by gouda on 26 May 2011 - 15:05
http://www.israelunitycoalition.org/video/vtemp.php?id=0168
gouda
Im not the liar,Keith,Obama is.

by Keith Grossman on 26 May 2011 - 15:05

by steve1 on 26 May 2011 - 15:05
You run down the President of the United States, a country you gave you sanctuary and says he is one of Satans helpers.
YOU' are but a bloody Immigrant nothing more who moved to that country to think you would get something for nothing and sponge off the welfare system there, If you feel the way you do about the Government and President of the USA why are you still there.
When you talk down to a man who you are not fit to lick his shoes, You do not only talk down to him , YOU talk down and hold the country and the majority of its people in Contempt because it was the majority of the people of the USA who put the man in the job he has now,
Personally you are a Fake, a Coward in the first degree, and a Charlatan, and a person i do not call you a Man who is not worth stepping over if you were laying on the pavement
I hold you in utter contempt for the miserable human that you are
Steve1

by sueincc on 26 May 2011 - 15:05
Hi Steve I'm so sorry that people are so rude they refuse to allow this thread to be about President Obama's excellent speech before Parliament as you intended.
It seems like some people only hear what they want to hear, and have moved this thread from the Parliament speech to the May 19th speech. So let's all be very clear about exactly what the President actually said rather than what Gouda wants people to believe. Here is a link to the complete transcript of President Obama's 5/19/11 speech. I have included the portion of the text regarding the Israeli and Palestine borders:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/20/world/middleeast/20prexy-text.html
"So while the core issues of the conflict must be negotiated, the basis of those negotiations is clear: a viable Palestine, a secure Israel. The United States believes that negotiations should result in two states, with permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their full potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state."
Here is a link to the transcript from President Obama's May 22 speech. I have included the portion of the text having to do with definining "mutually agreed upon swaps" which apparently some people didn't catch the first time around.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/text-obama-s-aipac-speech-20110522
".....Now, that is what I said. And it was my reference to the 1967 lines -- with mutually agreed swaps -- that received the lion’s share of the attention, including just now. And since my position has been misrepresented several times, let me reaffirm what “1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps” means.
By definition, it means that the parties themselves -– Israelis and Palestinians -– will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967. (Applause.) That’s what mutually agreed-upon swaps means. , or another two decades, or another three deca......"

by Chaz Reinhold on 26 May 2011 - 17:05

by steve1 on 26 May 2011 - 18:05
My mistake i should have said Canada, However you would NEVER get into that country now not a hope in hell, However your family moved there to get something for nothing otherwise you would not have immigrated there in the first place looking for a handout.
Read other posts i said i never show any signs visibly that i am not in other than an ordinary mood, i do not act the the way most do even if i am upset with something or some one, that is why my opponents in the Martial Arts years ago could never weigh me up, but i sure could weigh up them and other people at a glance that is why i remained undefeated in about 32 - 33 contests.
However you and others will say that because you cannot reply any other way you are at a loose end to reply so you try and bluff
However you not living in the USA makes it doubly worse because then President Obama is nothing to do with you in the sense that his works affect the way you live yet you have plenty to say about him but worse of all you call him Satans helper you would not say that in a letter to him with your address at the top thats for certain, you hide behind your computer where you feel safe.
NOW' you tell me Gouda and the rest of you Guys who live in the USA who have slagged this very good President off
HOW many of you have ever wrote to tell him how you feel about HIM as a Leader and how he is running your country, NOW do not say it will have done no good thats a COP OUT.
I certainly would and have done so with a past Prime Minister in the UK . I got a letter back and it explained certain things but did not solve what i had a grouse about at the time, However i would never lower myself to slag him off on a Forum, that is cowardly.
Do it in the proper manner in a Letter, face to face is not possible unfortunately in most cases,
This Thread has nothing to do with what most of you Guys are going on about I was told that i should not have deleted the letter i put in and was in affect a Coward for doing so, But just the one of half a dozen replies at the time and only about 20 looks at it told me it was a big mistake and He would be Chastised so i wiped it off hoping that things would not get out of hand but some of you are like wolves on a prey you love the opportunity to slate him but have not got the guts to write and tell him. IT is YOU guys who are the Cowards
OH' i am not in a bad mood just come back after a good training session with Gina she went well and i am very happy tonight, with the Dog but not so much with some of you people
Steve1

by Keith Grossman on 26 May 2011 - 18:05
And they can prove that Obama said something that the rest of the world has on tape but can't hear (or "here," for you)?
"I wont retrack anything Keith,because what I said was the total truth."
It's retract and I didn't really expect you to; the religious are nothing if not hypocrites.
by keepthefaith on 26 May 2011 - 21:05
One of the most revealing polls to me in terms of racist attitudes is one that revealed that although a substantial number of Republicans were "birthers" who questioned whether he was born in the US, if one looked at the make-up of the Republicans who believed this one got a better sense of what was involved. The percentage of Republicans in the North East, Mid-West, Mountain States and the West was relatively low. But the percentage of Republicans in the South who doubted his place of birth was very large.
Now having lived in the South for almost 10 years and having inter-acted with lots of Southern whites I can tell you that attitudes against blacks have not changed much, especially in the older generation, even if the blatant racism is a thing of the past.
The funniest thing is Republicans arguing for Cain as a potential nominee to prove that they are not racist - when we know perfectly well that the reason that they are comfortable supporting him is because he does not have a chance in hell of becoming the nominee.
I voted for Obama and, frankly, he has been a disappointment in some areas - especially his leadership when he came to health care reform. Basically there was no leadership and the end result was a give-away to the insurance industry. But on an overall basis he has done a good job.
It is laughable to me when Republicans argue that Obama has increased the national debt when it is Republican presidents since Carter who have contributed the most to the national debt by far. George W's two terms DOUBLED the national debt and left the economy in a tail-spin. The bail-out that cost $700 billion was approved when George Bush was president. He left Obama a crippled economy.
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