Senseless - Page 2

I will reserve judgement on those two police shootings until all the facts come out. And an unjustified shooting doesn't imply racist. That's the media narrative.

It's not a black thing to teach your kids how to behave in public.

Cops shoot white people too. More white people are killed by cops than black people. How often does a white getting killed by a cop make the national news? How often does a black on black murder make the national news? The media and race baiters are pushing a narrative of black victimhood. Perpetual black victimhood. They avoid any portrayals of whites as victims. They avoid any portrayals of blacks as perpetrators.

Ask any professional race baiter like Al Sharpton or any white liberal pundit why they don't live in the ghetto. Ask Obama why he doesn't send his kids to public school in DC (Carter did). All of these people talk about how bad it is for blacks yet that have chosen to stay away from black people or at least large numbers of black people. But let's blame the cops. The real racism is believing that blacks are incapable of accountability. The government is the new slave master.

So you have these morons who killed the cops in Dallas. And unfortunately stupidity is not something that disqualifies one from gun ownership. I say they were morons because they wanted to kill some white cops because cops are out there supposedly massacring innocent black people. If they were so concerned about the killing of black people then why didn't they go out and confront the gangs who are killing blacks at a much higher rate than cops are? Why didn't they go after the drug dealers who are poisoning their kids? Why didn't they go after the pimps who are basically enslaving black girls? It's hard to go after the real enemy when the real enemy is you. But that's what the mentality of perpetual victimhood does.

You ever been black and lived in America? When you are perpetually victimized what do you call that? I see it different than you because I have Mexican nieces and black family through marriage so I think you are wrong. And in a sense your post is slightly disturbing. Most blacks will tell you they have been targeted over and over. Whites can't see it. I read a great article yesterday but I can't find it today and it basically goes against pretty much all of what you are saying. Again, I will ask if you ever lived as a black in this country?

Great post Noitsyou.

GSD, everyone has a hard life. Everyone is treated poorly at some point in their life by others. You say Americans are racist, I call bull. Your President is black, the highest paid talk show host is black, many famous actors and actresses are black, many of the highest paid sports players are black. Why aren't you crying about all the whites killed by policemen?

If some cops are weary of black people, it is because they have reason to be. Many decent black folk are out there trying to tell people like you that you reap what you sow. If you don't want a problem with cops, then follow the law. Simple as that.

Your black President is part of the global elite and is trying (successfully) to cause a rift, cause chaos, cause dissention amongst the American people so they can take your guns, inflict more laws, take more freedoms and bring in this world Gov't.

Someday, SOMEDAY you may finally wake up and realize this.

Red, it has been proven over and over you are the one who needs to wake up. You ever lived as a black person? So, your perspective is from a white view and you are wrong. I have many black friends and family. And the stories they tell aren't what you perceive. We have a black president for many reasons. Mostly because we are nearing a 50% balance in white and non-white society. South Africa didn't see it. We whites are blind to it. And BTW, any life lost is a senseless tragedy especially when it comes from law enforcement. The reason I advocate the way I do is because my whole life I have stuck up for the little guy. You know the special ed student who was picked on, I was his only friend. The poor kid people laughed at because he didn't have clothes, I was his friend. And yes the only black in my school, yes I was also his friend and advocate. Mostly it is about compassion.

Here are some facts. I know no one wants to hear the truth, because it doesn't fit with the Liberals agenda. "There have been 561 shootings so far. 275 five of those deaths were white folks, 136 were black, and 86 were hispanic. And I would defy anyone who's paying attention to this stuff who's the name of the hispanic, or the white man who died?" as per Kevin Jackson, who by the way is black. Guess you'll have some reason to discredit him?

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/07/08/sheriff-clarke-obama-uses-words-irresponsibly-fuels-anger-toward-american-police/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

 

Sheriff Clarke is also black!

 

Lay off the kool-aid folks.  As for the guns, there is going to come a day, when you'll wish you had     one.

Now back to your Liberal programming.

There will never come a day I wish I had a gun. Why are you trying to know what I will wish for? 275 deaths? When in the past month? Can you supply a link to these facts? I for one would like to read it. And if you can't well I understand.

My wife is black and we have a child. I lived in the ghetto and worked in the ghetto. My wife currently teaches there. For every black person you can find who was wrongfully targeted by police I can find 10 who were targeted by other blacks. For every single mother who is actually trying to do the right thing for her kids I can find more who are too busy getting their hair and nails done to care. Step into a ghetto classroom and see how kids behave vs a suburban one. If we say that the only problems in the ghetto are the police then we are ignoring reality. It's a culture that is designed to keep people down. Some girls steal a car and crash it and die and people blame the cops. A black man is killed by the owner of the home he broke into to rob and that owner is at fault. This is a culture in which accountability and consequences don't exist. As a teacher I saw it all the time.

I'm white and the cops "targeted" me in the ghetto. They didn't give me a white pass. They thought I was suspicious and confronted me. I was also "targeted" by two black dudes while I was out with my wife. They were following us and it was only when we turned a corner and there happened to be a cop there that they turned and went the other way. I had friends in the ghetto and they told me how they avoided going to parties because it was a given that violence would break out. This had nothing to do with cops. One friend was robbed at the bus stop by another black person, not a cop. My brother in law's friend was killed by another black person, not a cop. The crackhead next door stole from out of my car, she wasn't a cop. There is a library close to where I lived but kids don't really go there because gang members hang out in the front. It's not cops keeping kids from the library. So yes, I guess you could say I lived more like black person than Obama. His kids never went to a ghetto school. Mine did.

There's a simple test we can do. If cops are so bad let's ban them from the ghetto. Things should get a lot safer without them, right?

I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist and that it isn't at the root of the issues that exist today but how many of those racist elements exist anymore? What I mean is that slavery is gone. The civil rights act was passed. We still see the effects of past racism but rather than deal with the effects we have people focusing on the past and wanting to point fingers. We have people telling blacks they are victims of these past crimes so they don't have to be accountable for what they do today. That's the soft bigotry of low expectations. I don't want my kid to think she doesn't have to work hard and that any obstacle in her way is racist so she doesn't have to worry about conquering it on her own. If you find any successful black person you will find someone who didn't waste time complaining about obstacles because he was too focused on taking advantage of opportunities.

For every cop who unjustly kills a black person how many are killed in the line of duty protecting people? How many white cops are out there facing gang members and drug dealers? How many white teachers working in the ghettos, getting treated disrespectfully by students and parents, hang in there because they want to try and help at least one kid? The media perpetuates this image of the evil white person and the black victim but won't show the cases of people who are trying to make a difference. Show the white cop who works with the community on his off time.

Racism still exists but not every black suspect that gets killed was innocent. The idea that every time a black person is killed by a cop it was unjust and motivated by race is a false narrative that is destructive. And not every unjust shooting had anything to do with race.

Unfortunately there has been a systematic program of pushing minorities, mainly blacks into projects, unfair justice system practices, and so on.  There is a problem with the way drug charges are done following the 1986 war on drugs start.  When 100 grams of cocaine and 1 gram of crack is dealt with the same.  Cocaine was the drug choice of middle class and wealthy whites while cheap crack was the drug choice for the poor.  Hmmmmmmm.  Also someone that gets incarcerated for a crime and can't afford bail goes into a court room wearing an orange or striped jumpsuit instantly is judged more harshly than a person that made bail and got to go home to get in a business suit (my DA friend told me court is not about truth or fairness, it is about how much justice you can afford and who has the best used car salesman).  There is something wrong with 5% of the worlds population (US) incarcerating 25% and at the highest rate in the WORLD.  We allow for profit prisons which is just wrong.  Our justice system allows those who got out on parole or finished their sentences to be charged thousands of dollars for their incarceration and public defender.  Even the for profit prisons are allowed to.  Solitary is used as punishment and should be deemed cruel and unusual as it is.  We incarcerate the youngest as adults and most of them are black.  1 in 175 white men will end up in prison, 1 in 3 black men will end up in prison and it is not because they are inherently more criminal or violent.  Face it, white privelege exists as does racism, being aware is the first step to fixing it.    There is something very, very wrong when it is believed by those with privelege that someone from each house is treated the same and has the exact same opportunities to prosper and make it.........

No one should use violence to solve problems and yes, there are racist cops, few but those make it into the media, not the thousands of good fair hardworking cops.  Media is fueling the fires and the worst thing that happened was when Pres Reagan allowed the Fair Reporting act to be repealed which meant the media was free to slant the news as they see fit. 

One comment on the three different family photos of kids and guns: All three sets of parents are senseless. Why isn't that the most obvious conclusion?

Cocaine/crack is so passé. Everybody is dying from heroin OD these days. Truly these continuing deaths are equal opportunities.

Unfortunately Beetree, the majority of deaths from heroin are because of the crackdown on prescription pain medication.  The new guidelines for chronic and acute pain management are horrendous.  So tired of knee jerk reactions and band aid solutions where real life experience and common sense are kept out of the decisions........

As for parents senseless, hate to tell you I was raised with guns, most of my friends were raised with guns and I have a few apiculture of me and my friends growing up with guns, my infant son was photographed with a rifle (no I was not there to stop it, an infant photographed with a gun is just goofy).  Countries that have sensible gun laws and require their population to EDUCATED on proper use and use of force have far less crime, far less gun and violent crime then we do. 

Where I used to be, we were trying an initiative to get law enforcement and minorities together to learn about each other, learn about the others' culture and daily life experiences, and develop trust.  Education and respect is key.