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by vk4gsd on 12 March 2016 - 08:03

What would the forefathers think of trump?

I would like to see the demographics of his voters, my guess lots of angry white men in their 50's (and their disempowered subordinate women) that were raised to live in a world built just for them, a world that isn't this one.

They were led to believe they should be so much more than they are, and they just don't get it.


mrdarcy (admin)

by mrdarcy on 12 March 2016 - 13:03

vk4,Thumbs Up


by beetree on 12 March 2016 - 15:03

vk4 asks:

I would like to see the demographics of his voters, ...

I believe I touched upon this already in my other thread here:

An image

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/who-are-donald-trumps-supporters-really/471714/

 

It would appear that the idea of an impossible American Dream is very appealing to some. I've noticed that is a common theme spoken here, and well, "sour grapes" is the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear it!

I found this a very interesting piece, that is a compilation of candid emails from closet Trump supporters, covering a huge gamut of self labeled persons of all walks in life.

 

Entitled, "Not even my wife knows": secret Donald Trump voters speak out." Here are a few choice bits to give you a better idea:

Political correctness is the birthplace of disastrous, un-American policies that will destroy the country in a death by a thousand cuts. But here comes Trump, the first person who didn’t even blink when the machine turns its sights on him. 

He didn’t just fight back. He chewed it up and spit it out.

    ~The Hispanic attorney (29, Florida)

I’m concerned that some US citizens have a loyalty to their own group over and above their loyalty to America, and will lobby accordingly.

I’m a patriotic socialist, but my strong-borders patriotism wins over my socialism if I have to choose. As Donald says, we either have a country or we don’t.

~The scientist who likes both Bernie and Donald (48, California)

Do I like Trump’s platform? No, I think most of it is silly and misguided, but at least it is not the same bullshit casserole that has been on the menu in Washington DC for as long as I have been alive. 

His candidacy is a happy accident that is currently ripping the soul of America apart, which is something that I think we desperately need (and deserve) at this time in our history, for better or for worse. I support whatever strange gods happen to be behind his candidacy, for, as Martin Heidegger proclaimed in his famous Der Speigel interview, although for slightly different reasons, “Only a God can save us.”

~The Occupy protester turned Trump supporter (24, New York)

 

I am a Democrat but will vote for Trump, because he is not bought and paid for by anyone. We the American people are tired of politicians owing favors to rich businessmen, bankers, oil companies and stock markets. It should be against the law to have lobbyists involved with government.

~The casino supervisor (56, Oklahoma)

Bernie is a breath of fresh air, but I’m not sure he can beat Hillary. In a match between Bernie and Donald, I’d vote for the former. In a match between Hillary and Donald, I’d vote for the latter. It isn’t a vote for Trump, but rather a vote against the political establishment (which must be removed from office at any cost – even if it means electing a reality TV star for president). The stakes are too high. Hillary cannot win or the oligarchy will continue unabated.

And please don’t publish my name, it would ruin the whole “progressive” image (and my girlfriend might kill me). 

I bet a lot of pragmatic sorts are in the same boat ...

~The yoga teacher (29, Tennessee)

Given a chance, I would vote for Bernie. But the only choices will probably be Trump and Clinton. In that case, I will vote for Trump.

I believe that Clinton will continue the Wall Street-style march to oligarchy. With her, the eventual demise of democracy will lead to a fascist plutocracy. It is going on right now, and it will continue to be slow, painful and inevitable.

~The retired biomedical engineer (56, Hawaii)

As a gay muslim, the Republican Party has not been kind to me, to say the least. However the Democrats almost arrogantly expect me to hand my vote to them because of who I am, which insults me.

... For all his bombastic remarks, Trump will not attack innocent Muslim countries. Ironically enough, he may be the best thing for moderate average Muslims. He isn’t our enemy, he is the enemy of the globalist Wahhabi cult that has propagated mass violence and murder through out the world.

~The gay Arab Muslim student (20, Missouri)

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/03/secret-donald-trump-voters-speak-out

You get the idea, there are more examples of people claiming to be secret Trump supporters, I didn't include them all.


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 12 March 2016 - 20:03

[At the risk of being told to piss off LOL]

JEDEDIAH BROWN for POTUS !

by vk4gsd on 12 March 2016 - 21:03

Does this work;

Trump is stupid evil
Hillary is smart evil

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 12 March 2016 - 21:03



by vk4gsd on 12 March 2016 - 21:03

That's disturbing, this guy would be commander in chief of all US defence forces.

I am starting to get anxiety.

by joanro on 13 March 2016 - 02:03

Look closely...the supporters are not what you profiled them. They are young, males and females, middle aged, and very old. He is very dangerous and disturbing to imagine the us a being ruled by the psychopath.

Carlin

by Carlin on 13 March 2016 - 02:03

Way, way, way, too much cable news viewing happening. Disappointing the way in which the generic narratives are swallowed and regurgitated in such predictable fashion.

Bee - the data does indeed reveal that Trump's supporters are more diverse than the bobble-headed pundits would have us believe. Despite the contrived tabloid fodder decrying racism,he carries approx. 5x the Muslim support that either McCain or Romney did and more of the black vote than Bush or Romney did combined.

But why are tens of millions being spent on attack ads every week (primarily from the GOP donor class) focused on Trump?

What key issues does he consistently stress in every one of his appearances that accounts for what has become the bane of the establishments?

Under examination, the vast majority of the media's most frequently pedaled Trump headlines are decidedly misleading. Given the manner in which the typical news outlet consumer processes (I'm being generous with that, obviously) information, it's unsurprising that the criticisms almost invariably amount to little more than personal disdain for, to be honest, a cantankerous tool. But what's the real story? What do we really need to walk away with from this disaster of an election?

The useless musings of R. Maddow and other preoccupied SJW's notwithstanding, I was actually a bit taken aback when I came across an electronic poll today (at non-political, unbiased website) wherein 54% of a then 60,000+ people expressed that Trump was in any way responsible for the civil unrest at the debates. Now, I don't believe for a moment that such a high percentage of Americans have suddenly reacquainted themselves with the idea of personal responsibility for their actions and behaviors. Rather, I'm of the mind that the sentiment informs Trump's resilience at the polls regardless of what kind of garbage he spews. The truth seems to be that what Trump is has become of less importance than what he is not -another Koch brothers' Republican or Soros' Democrat on the payroll. Wish I had more time right now to elaborate, but I'll just say that I fear that what has becomes our self-absorbed, apathetic lethargy finds us stirring a bit late in the game. As much as I may be enamored by what Trump is not, I am haunted by the thought of having to vote for the substance of what he is.

Not quite VK -Trump is evidently quite brilliant in his strategy while Hillary has always struggled to ascend the plateau of competence.

by vk4gsd on 13 March 2016 - 09:03

Carlin not sure how the words coming out of trumps mouth in the clip are supposed to mean anything other than what he was saying.

Do you possess some magic decoder to know otherwise??





 


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