Potty/Crate Training Issues! - Page 2

I would show the pee to him and give him a reprimand.  I would also throw kibble in the crate.  They tend not to like to pee where they eat.  I would also make sure that I gave him lots and lots of praise when he pee'd were you wanted him to pee.

I wouldn't show any sympathy for the dog peeing in the crate.  No, "all poor thing, you were in the crate all day and had to pee".  If I didn't reprimand for peeing in the crate, then I wouldn't show any emotion about it one way or another.  The last thing you want to do is teach your dog that peeing in his crate gets him sympathy.

Jeffs, your advice is anti productive. Also, no one said to sympathize and coo at the pup for relieving himself. How many hours do you think is reasonable to expect an animal, pup or adult, to hold it's urine before it's bladder is about to bust and kidney/ bladder problems are caused? How many screwed up puppies do you suppose end up dumped in the pound because people think they can accomplish a positive result by punishing a pup for relieving an over- extended bladder?

Show him his pee and then reprimand him?! Seriously?! Who does that? Never, never, never do this unless you want to screw up your pup and ruin your bond with him. Wow!

As far as showing sympathy - I meant don't say, "oh poor baby, couldn't hold your pee".  People do it.

As far as showing the mess to the dog - nothing wrong with it.  Doesn't screw them up - it's a myth perpetuated by people who don't anything about dogs.
 

I hope any one who reads Jeffs' posts will be able to see the fallacy in them. Please don't heed his advice...it is worse than ignorant.

OP - Did you check for a UTI?  Once you rule out UTI, stepping back, as you have done, should help. 

 This is still a young enough pup that he might be regressing.  I still would not expect a 4 - 5 month old pup to hold it more than about 6 hours; if you get more than that, great, but consider it luck. 

For at night, the root issue may be more that he is not sleeping all the way through.  He is still at the age that as soon as he wakes up, he has to go.   How much down time do you have before bed?  Maybe the pup is in down time before bed, therefore waking up early.

Just some thoughts.

You also might start training an "indicator" for when the pup needs to go outside.  He maybe a silent indicator, which of course you do not see at night.  I use a bell for mine.  If they need to go outside, they ring a bell.  The downside to this training is that they will ring the bell whenever they want outside and not just when they need to go to the bathroom.

I was having housebreaking problems with my pup. One day, after she peed in her crate just after being let out, I noticed the pee was a strange green colour.

I took a sample off to the vets...well, well, well...poor pup had a UTI! NO WONDER she couldn't hold it!

I mention this because the pup WAS trained, and now has gone back to not being able to hold it, so it COULD be an infection.

I really hope people don't actually think joanro knows anything about training.  Her advice leads to dogs being dropped off at the pound.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to take him to the vet to be checked to see if he has any problems with his bladder or glands as this could be the reason for him to be peeing in the crate if there isnt anything wrong with him then her may need to be sternly told no when he does it and now this may seem harsh but i am a puppy handler/ trainer i have also delt with agressive and naughty behaved dogs in the past and perhaps you may need to rub his nose in the mess before cleaning it up and then placing him into the garden for 10- 15 mins just to let him know that this is wrong this way he wont associate the crate with bad things only that if he pees in it then hes going to be told off, howver i would strongly suggest you take him to the vet to be checked out