by GSDHeritage on 23 January 2021 - 18:01
Hanaki89, PDB rules only OFA USA lab that will be accepted on the PDB. Members will need to send other Lab results to OFA to be entered on their site so Admin can verify this on the OFA site. If not on the OFA site it will not be allowed on the PDB.
by Hanaki89 on 24 January 2021 - 01:01
@duke1965 Can I have your Embark's results for this dog plz?
Without having the results for the KNPV dutchy you mentioned, I claim that Embark did not messed up with the DNA test, the problem is only the .pdf that this company gave you after because it is made for all other Dutch and Belgian Shepherds all around the world and not for KNPV dogs.
For the "KNPV malinois" I found on the internet, she carries a brindle gene that Embark found. So Embark wrote that she is a "dutch shepherd" even if she is not, and wrote all her family tree as dutch because malinois and dutchy are the same dog except for the color.
Malinois and Dutchies have 99.99% the same DNA pool. If I send to Embark (or any company) the DNA of my FCI Belgian Malinois without the color genes, they will not be able to tell me if I have a Dutch or a Belgian shepherd.
For your KNPV dutchy Embark found a brindle gene so I suppose that the company wrote that its father is a herder even if you know for sure that he is a fawn KNPV malinois. You have to read the DNA results a little bit differently if you have a KNPV dog, but that does not mean that results are wrong.
by duke1965 on 24 January 2021 - 02:01
by Hundmutter on 24 January 2021 - 04:01
by Hanaki89 on 24 January 2021 - 09:01
@duke1965 Can we have the BNR number of your dutch shepherd? You might overestimate the import of other bloods in KNPV lines. For example: the world famous "KNPV pitbull malinois mix" Rico Vergossen BNR 17064 has no pitbull blood at all!!!
by duke1965 on 24 January 2021 - 09:01
hanaki, your facts are off, there are multiple influences in knpv lines/dogs, not only pitbull, but that is beside my point, if you have a yellow X malinois, and you find a shred of dutchy DNA in it, you cant say its a 100% pure dutch shepherd, supposedly you know the bloodline of the example you post, why dont you share it so we can see the 100% Dutch shepherd ancestry of the dog
also I would like to hear your opinion of where pure malinois, get black saddles, extreme jawstructure, musclestructure and bulldogfronts, if not mixed with other breeds
by Hanaki89 on 24 January 2021 - 14:01
BNR 17064 was a myth that everybody know. He was known to be a malinois pitbull mix, and finally he was not. You can find everything on the internet. His father BNR 2116 is register as "mix malinous rüde" and his mother BNR 14265 as "mix malinois hündin".
If you give us the BNR of your dog and you put in public acces your Embark results I pretend that I can explain them.
by duke1965 on 24 January 2021 - 16:01
by Baerenfangs Erbe on 24 January 2021 - 20:01
by jillmissal on 24 January 2021 - 20:01
If it were a trustworthy way of testing, veterinarians and OFA would use it, and they don't. So, I'll stick with OFA for what I can do.