Some Current top working female producers in America ? - Page 2

SO much attention is always given to the Sire of a litter...I think a lot more should be given to the Dam...

I think it's very good to be talking about good producing females...Much more attention should be given to what the female brings to the breeding equation...

Very good topic....!

I do too, Q Man.

1 page in 3 days seems a bit lacking for something so important, imo. Granted, females are harder for people to appreciate on a large scale, because even a female bred 5 times with 10 pups per litter will only have a fraction of what a stud will produce. Still, though, those who have seen several nice pups out of the same female should speak up, especially if the first "crop" is getting to be producing age. It's hard for people to research females because their influence isn't as far-reaching, at least not until many years after they're gone, so people discussing females currently or recently being bred would definitely be helpful. I know I'd appreciate knowing what current females people admire and why. They're better than 50% of the equation! 

Masa Jipo-Me was recently imported by Weberhaus, and I believe she's got some pretty decent offspring, from what I've heard anyway. I've never personally met her or any of her pups.

There is a Wildhaus dog in our club, who has had a really nice litter. Conformation-wise she may not be the best, but she's a hell of a worker. Last I knew she had 14 SchH3's, and also does some herding. She's competed at national levels too. I've also seen her outside of the club, and she has a super temperament... take-anywhere kind of dog. A couple people bring their kids to training, and I've seen her play tug with a 2-year old girl, and it's neat because she adjusts her tugging to whoever she's playing with. She lets the little girl drag her all over the place, but the second the little girl loses interest and drops the toy, she'll come running over to me or someone else, and the second you show any kind of strength tugging, she'll turn around and yank your arm out of it's socket. LOL. Super happy and sweet dog. Love her! Her litter is fairly young yet, but they look very promising. She has only been bred the one time, so who's to say how much is from her or the sire (also a nice dog), but I like 'em nonetheless!

Great to hear about strong producing working females here in USA and where people can go if one wants to inquire about a future puppy purchase,its very nice to have a strong short list were people can search by being more informed.Great input form all posts and some good details.I love to hear about what high event trials the females offspring are winning in and also detailed descriptions of some of theses great females that someone that has seen them work firsthand. Any linked vids to watch would also be nice to view if we can be directed where to see them in action.I,m like Q-man and others, many times we hear about these top males lets look at great producing females.

Bundishep, your first post didn't specify "high event trials" like your last post did. You initially mentioned stability, hardness, etc. I guess you would need to define what you consider "top producing" for the thread to really take off.  What someone looks for in a dog is as individual as............well, we all know how individual it is.Let's not go there right now, LOL.

 

I think it's very interesting hearing people's favorite Females...Just as it's been brought up many times about the Best Males...

It's absolutely true that everyone has different tastes but at least you have some input into what is being thought...

I personally think the Females offers more to the breeding then the Male does...Even though they each give 50%/50% to the genes...The Female has a lot more to do with the puppies in terms of how they are brought up and turn out...

~Bob~

I agree Q-man, although the genes inherited are 50-50, the mother has a very strong environmental influence (both in utero and after birth) which has increasingly been SHOWN to impact offspring on the genetic level, even for multiple generations. The following article excerpt is not specific to canines, but I expect there are studies on canines either in the works or already published.

Effect of In Utero and Early-Life Conditions on Adult Health and Disease

Peter D. Gluckman, M.D., D.Sc., Mark A. Hanson, D.Phil., Cyrus Cooper, M.D., and Kent L. Thornburg, Ph.D.

N Engl J Med 2008; 359:61-73July 3, 2008DOI: 10.1056/NEJMra0708473

"The developmental cue is not limited to the nutritional environment during the period of gestation; rather, the information passed to the fetus or neonate from conception to weaning is a summation of maternal nutritional experience, integrating a lifetime of signals from the mother and perhaps even the grandmother.88-90 Such intergenerational transfer of environmental information may confer an adaptive advantage, even if the environment changes between generations, as shown in modeling studies.91 For example, in rat models, exposure during pregnancy to glucocorticoids92 or a low-protein diet76 results in altered expression of liver enzymes, elevated blood pressure, and endothelial dysfunction in the F₁ generation. These changes can be transmitted to the F₂ generation without further challenge to members of the F₁ generation during their lives. Limited clinical data are concordant with these experimental observations: epidemiologic studies have linked grandpaternal nutrition in one generation to the risk of diabetes in the F₂ generation.93 The mechanism of intergenerational transfer is not clear, although it is known that postfertilization erasure of epigenetic marks such as DNA methylation and histone modification is incomplete for imprinted genes and similar processes may operate for some nonimprinted genes."

I second Hexes' opinion on Julia Priest. I also believe Carmen Duggan breeder of Carmspack German Shepherds is a great source. 

Jenni78 the reason I mentioned what offspring are doing well in trials is one form of measurement of how a female is producing and or kennel is producing,I understand dogs that do well in or win trails are not always hard,sound, strong nerved its just one breeding tool we have to look at whats going on with offspring being produced,theres all kinds of temperments in high event trails and everyone does have their favorites or what they think an idea shepard is all about, what I think is a well bred sound dog in many cases is very diff than what someone else thinks or likes,for example sometimes what I would call a strong nerved or hard dog is not always an eager to please dog or has high trainability,but if a dog is strong nerved eager to please and eager to be trained all the better,another example is I personally like  a strong natural retrieve ,I can go back to the 60s and 70,s on what females produced well in Europe but for now lets focus on females and kennels are producing here homegrown and I agree with you sometimes it takes 10,15,20 or even more years latter to get a really detailed understanding on how great a female produced.