Teaching the OUT/AUS?

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by Travel time on 29 May 2009 - 15:05

I'm looking for some opinions about what age and or stage of training to teach the OUT/AUS. Also, what methods to you use?
Thanks

by judron55 on 29 May 2009 - 15:05

start now wih the food bowl!

by SitasMom on 29 May 2009 - 16:05

get a tug

play with dog

brace the tug against your legs so it will not move and say Aus once.

do not let the dog move the tug.

dog will get board very soon.

the instant it lets go, say your reward command (OK or GOOD or what ever you use) and immediately start playing tug with you dog again.

repeat these 6 steps over and over again with the time in between the AUS and start of play longer each time.

your dog will love playing and as soon as you say AUS the dog will drop the item..

it takes about 3 minutes twice a day for a week and you got it.

once your dog respects the AUS for 30 seconds or so, give it a different command to teach it delayed gratification. Say AUS and then your command and then the reward command.

this will come in very handy later.......but remember there is a trust issue once delayed gratification is taught. you must always give it its' reward.

by Travel time on 29 May 2009 - 18:05

Thanks, I'll have to give that a try.

by Mindhunt on 29 May 2009 - 19:05

I always start as soon as I can with anything that presents itself as a learning chance. For instance, my puppy drops something, I label it Aus and reward. During play, when your puppy drops the toy automatically, label it Aus and reward. Timing is everything. If you puppy learns that he/she gets rewarded everytime immediately, they make the connection pretty quickly. I was always taught to start the dog out with the dog dropping on his/her own, labeling, rewarding immediately. Once the dog has the concept then you can add Ausing on purpose, never make it a contest and ALWAYS reward immediately. I was also taught that when the dog makes the learning connection, the dog never forgets. When I did protection work, my dog had the Aus concept down, but even then, the first few times, the trainer wanted me to wait until my dog dropped it, say Aus while kicking sleeve away (takes away the opportunity to rebite) and reward immediately. He got it pretty quickly. I,m sure everyone has their proven methods. I just believe in making it all fun.

by Get A Real Dog on 30 May 2009 - 01:05

Travel Time,

You have very nice genetics behind your dog. May I suggest allowing your Training Director to guide you before trying to get advice from this board and do things on your own?

Just a suggestion, you have a very nice puppy.

Not saying this is you but I have a guy in my club right now, that just can not leave his dogs alone during the week. He does not realize he is making life difficult for his dogs, me, and himself. Every week, I hide a piece of equipment ( he has his own bite sleeves, tugs, etc) in my truck and take it home so he has less things to "play" with his dogs with. I tell him I have it and will give it back one piece at a time for every 5 rep incriments he gives me for playing ball. Right now his dog does not bring the ball back so I think it will be awhile before he gets any bitework equipment back

The handlers job is to teach OB, agility, manners, and excercise. Leave the bitework to the training directors and training decoys unless they give you specific homework.

Trust me on this and your dog's life and training will be much easier

by Travel time on 30 May 2009 - 02:05

I hear ya GARD. I do worry about doing the wrong thing at home. Don't worry, my questions go with me to the club tomorrow morning. Thanks for the compliments on my pup. We are doing 50 pace tracks and OB is coming along nicely.

by sueincc on 30 May 2009 - 03:05

I agree with GARD about your nice pup and also suggest you wait and talk with your TD. You don't want to mess around with outing too much anyways, it can be done too much and effect the dog negatively down the road. This is one of those things you want to have someone explain to you in person, with your pup.

by k9ulf on 30 May 2009 - 07:05

Just say "aus"

. just kidding, of course does it take some time and effort.

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All the best
Ulf

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