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by beetree on 27 August 2016 - 13:08

It merely says what has already been said, Charity Navigator declined to rate them because they did not have a proper way avaiable to make a valid assessment. This conclusion was made to address challenges to their earlier rating that was not favorable to the the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Foundation. That is because of the organization's "House of Mirrors" formation, as I call it.

 


by Noitsyou on 27 August 2016 - 14:08

beetree said, "That is because of the organizations' "House of Mirrors" formation, as I call it."

No, it is not. That is your opinion, not fact.

by Noitsyou on 27 August 2016 - 14:08

Beetree said, "Without knowing what duties are actually required how can anyone judge? "

Well, isn't that exactly what you are doing?

by beetree on 27 August 2016 - 14:08

I said it was my opinion when I wrote, "...as I call it." What are we doing here, if it isn't giving opinions?

How many times do I need to repeat the point, that the very invention of the foundations uniqueness is the vehicle for which verifications and fair comparisons become impossible. Voila! House of Mirrors.


by beetree on 27 August 2016 - 14:08

How do you, yourself, accomplish due diligence without your own reason to assess and judge in forming your own opinion? Nothing earth shattering, here. I am also not running for a public office.

Any one is free to decide if giving money to my philanthropic organization is efficient or wasteful regards to its stated mission. And yes, when a donor gives big, they gain access to people, that is undeniable, too.


by Noitsyou on 27 August 2016 - 22:08

Isn't that the republican way? Money talks. That's how things work in Trump's world.

by beetree on 28 August 2016 - 00:08

Stupid:

To think access has directional limit.

by Noitsyou on 28 August 2016 - 16:08

I don't see how access=nefarious.

by beetree on 28 August 2016 - 19:08

I wouldn't either, if one holds a Pollyanna type of world view.

On the other hand, when large sums of money start to change hands and are only marked for general use, all things are possible, including, a nefarious possibility— if one was nefariously, minded.

I was doing some poking around in their IRS 990/2014 filing.  An image

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They do ask for a report on how the donor money they pass through gets spent, so that's a good thing... I think. Except, if they use their own highest standards as benchmarks for determining efficiency and value per donation dollar, I am not sure how that would stack up as a "checks and balance" system. See, they made sure to find other organizations exist that have very high salaried officers, so they could base their own compensations, by those. My experience on the other hand, is that the turn over for Development Directors in the non-profit arena is usually quite high, and not at all in line with the pay scales of the BH&CC Foundation. Granted, I can't really make a fair comparison because of the size and scope of what I know, doesn't make a match at all. If there is a turnover problem it is blamed on Chelsea, she's difficult to work for, by most accounts. LOL, I bet! Any way, look who gets bonuses, and pension plans, too! It is hard to find private sector businesses who still do that! 

The House of Mirrors would be a wonderful setting for an all-things-are-possible scenario. I also think "CLIMATE" is an absolutely, brilliant catch-all of program services. No end to what that could actually mean.

Even if you don't agree Noitsyou, Hillary certainly understands the concept of conflict of interest, or she wouldn't have suggested Warren Buffet take over the foundation running, since she will step down from the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation if she is POTUS. She quit once before but that didn't last. I also read that the idea is to drop the families first names, too, to just Clinton Foundation. That would make sense, and then it will be easier to come and go at will, or necessity. 

I am heartened at least, to now know, that the family doesn't pay themselves a salary. That would have been really selfish.

They sure know how to plan a Gala Event or two, for a cool $2 million, but I understand fundraising has certain standards to maintain when in NYC or DC. And don't begrudge them the fact that they are forced to travel first class because they are too famous and in need of security, they really have no choice.

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What's this though? Financial Literacy in the Caribbean?  Huh? 

 

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by Noitsyou on 28 August 2016 - 23:08

When she becomes president it would make sense to step away from the Foundation. It would probably be necessary even if she didn't want to. The idea that it should be shut down, whatever that would entail, like Trump says is another matter. Besides, I'm more concerned with those who donated mega dollars to her campaign than those who donated to the Foundation.





 


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