Studding my German Sherperd - Page 3

Your dog is still quite young, and even with a good pedigree he may not be breeding material. There is nothing wrong with getting him hip/elbow certified, testing for DM, etc. Then join a training club or take classes at a local facility and see where it takes you. Prepare for the conformation ring and show him and see how he does. And if you get positive input from judges and breeders, only THEN should you start thinking about using him as a stud dog.
I do wonder why you are anxious to stud out such a young dog unless it was your plan to do so strictly for profit.
I guess it is because I hear too much from people in general who believe that CHD and DM are NORMAL for the breed. That is because they usually see dogs bred by people who use the cheapest breeding stock they can afford or the animals are products of puppy mills bought at pet stores.
Please consider changing your priorities for your male. Go out and have fun with him, train him, do certifications and tests that a stud dog needs, and please think twice before you add more animals to the shelter and pound system. We do not need MORE GSDs. We need more HIGH QUALITY dogs.

Just to be fair to you if you think I am being harsh. I have a nice male and I think he is the cat's meow. I have had other people (breeders, trainers) tell me I have a very good dog with a super pedigree.
He has no working titles though he has been shown. The breeders in my area fall into about 2 categories: 1 those backyard breeders who would like stud services for free or in exchange for their least favorite pup from the litter; or these same breeders who think it is cheaper to have a poor to mediocre male for their poor to mediocre female. I would most likely not want my male to even LOOK at their female without a bunch of vaccinations, a condom, or maybe a hazmat suit. 2 those breeders who want and can afford a top male stud with working titles and really nice show history.
So my boy will have to be satisfied with humping my other male, or if he gets lucky, some runaway female in heat that wanders onto my porch (more likely than not, a pit bull. Been there, done that!)

The truth is stud dogs are a dime a dozen regardless of titles or other niceties ... A stud dog has to pass good qualities to their offspring ( and not bad qualities ) and there have been plenty of BSP, BSZS, WUSV and other "world champs" that were busts as a stud. The great females are the foundation of a breeding program. A stud dog's credentials are what he produces and not what he is.

Yeah for Bubbabooboo...

The way I think about advertising stud dogs, is that if you have to do it, you probably haven’t done enough work to actually stud your dog to an above average bitch. The bitch owners are the ones that come calling once your dog has caught their eye, either through seeing your dog live or maybe hearing about him through either success on the field or producing progeny. Yes, an advertisement on facebook or on pdb might get the “availability” of your dog as a stud out there to people, but those are the ones that have probably already been actively looking at your dog and wondering if he’s available for stud and where he’s located. The truth is, unless your dog is visible on the national level in real life and not just on the internet, the only people that are going to breed to him are local, and if he’s that great of a specimen, they should already know all about him without having to see an advertisement. Unless your dog has done something above and beyond the average dog, there is no reason for a breeder to incur the added expense and headache of breeding to your dog when they probably have dozens of the same type of dog with the same types of credentials within driving distance of them. Reputable breeders are quite the small community and people tend to know each other. If you don’t know them or they don’t know you because you haven’t really done much to catch their eye, it’s a sign that your dog isn’t going to be bred to. No matter what your dog’s pedigree, the chances are that there is a half-brother or a cousin somewhere out there with proper breeding credentials that will sell more puppies because that one has gone through the necessary tests.

If you want to present your dog for stud to the working or show (BSZ) GSD community, there are a few requisites that should be present. Proven working ability ie. Sch title, Police title, SAR, drug detection, etc. The studs proven health ie OFA hips and elbows. Some folks will ask for other health certs.

The AKC model does not require these requisites for mating. In short you want to make sure your dog is bringing something to the table other than pretty looks.

Real life szenario...

When American Pharoah won the Triple Crown and Breeder's Cup ( most recently ) it was not American Pharoah who became the most sought after stud horse for thoroughbred racing horses it was American Pharoah's sire Pioneer of the Nile who is a nine year old stud that became the most sought after in the USA. American Pharoah's owner sold part of his ownership in American Pharoah' breeding rights because it was Pioneer of the Nile that sired the triple crown winner and American Pharoah is not a proven sire or stud horse while Pioneer of the Nile is now very much proven.

Out of Wikipedia:

"Pioneerof the Nile is a bay horse bred in Kentucky by his owner Zayat Stables. He was sired by 2003 Belmont Stakes winner, Empire Maker. His dam, Star of Goshen, was a stakes-winning daughter of Lord at War, a multiple grade I winner whose victories included the 1985 Santa Anita Handicap. During his racing career, the colt was trained by Bob Baffert."

"As a two-year-old Pioneerof the Nile won the Grade I CashCall Futurity. In his 3 year-old campaign, he won the Robert B. Lewis Stakes, the San Felipe Stakes, and California's most important race for his age group, the Santa Anita Derby.

Pioneerof the Nile finished second to Mine That Bird in the 2009 Kentucky Derby over a sloppy track. He finished 11th in The Preakness Stakes"

What do you want to tell us, Bubba?

IPO people would say : "Out of proven lines"

Good one, Susie!