Cloudy Waters: Clinton Foundation Accomplishments - Page 2

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GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 26 August 2016 - 13:08

BTW, new polls out today show democrats winning it all. With white male support falling for Trump. Thank you, Trump.

by beetree on 26 August 2016 - 13:08

And now you know what you can expect from a Hillary presidency, won't you.

It isn't a good thing.




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by GSD Admin on 26 August 2016 - 14:08

I know it won't be hate filled. Well except the hate from the right. BTW, didn't you claim the same for Obama, how the stock market was gonna crash, how all those rich investors weren't going to invest. How the world was going to end, how did that work out?

by beetree on 26 August 2016 - 14:08

LOL... Am I supposed to figure out some kind of point from your comment, that makes sense, and also relates to this post about the Clinton Foundation governance and how it will predict for a Hillary USA President governance? And that is what you consider justification?

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by GSD Admin on 26 August 2016 - 15:08

The point is you said everything was going to fall apart, just like you are claiming now. It didn't happen then and and won't happen now. But go ahead and pretend there is a difference for you between then and now, I am good with it.

by beetree on 26 August 2016 - 20:08

I really don't think I made such a doom and gloom prediction in any serious form of contemplation. A complaint perhaps, but a complete failure, it would be out of character for me. If you want to think I did, I am okay with that. We both then, are so agreeable!

by Noitsyou on 26 August 2016 - 23:08

@beetree, just because Breitbart is saying these things about the Clinton Foundation doesn't make any of it true or as nefarious as they claim. Joan posted some report it published and I did something that probably none of its readers do: I checked the sources it cited. It was full of lies.

As far as salaries go, how much would someone get for doing the same type of work for a business? For example, a lawyer is going to expect to be paid according to his function and not who is paying him.

The Foundation has lowered the cost of AIDS medications for millions of people.

Here's something interesting: The foundation also didn't used to be so polarizing. Plenty of Republicans have spoken at the Clinton Global Initiative, including Mitt Romney just 42 days before the 2012 election.

"Since serving as president, President Clinton has devoted himself to lifting people around the world," Romney said then. "And one of the best things to happen to any cause, to any people, is to have Bill Clinton as its advocate."


by Noitsyou on 26 August 2016 - 23:08

One more thing. When Trump says the Clinton Foundation should be shut down he is talking about doing something evil. Millions of people in places like Africa would lose access to AIDS medications, and die.

The whole pay to play line that Trump uses is based on a story that the AP ran but was poorly researched.

by beetree on 27 August 2016 - 01:08

@Noitsyou. I have no idea why you would suggest my source is related to what Joan and her sources claim. I have not seen them since I don't frequent that site myself. I gave the link to my source and furthered it with Guidestar.

I can't take your claims without proof, either. I would be happy to believe the Clinton Foundation successes are quantifiable if you will please, share your data as proof.

I remain unconvinced as to the administration costs being appropriate. The non profit professionals I know are not making $100k for administrative duties. The CEOs I know don't draw a penny for themselves, either. Without knowing what duties are actually required how can anyone judge? How do we know what drug costs have been lowered? Do you have that information handy, too? I know lawyers for non profits, too. They are full time paid advocates for their organizations. I will have to dig further to learn their salary, but that isn't something impossible to verify. They certainly do not command the same scale of private law firm salaries. Comparing an administrator with a competent lawyer doesn't commensurate within each of their skill sets either, so it is a red herring argument.

Apparently we have to take their word for such claims of program provided improvements  and value of services rendered.

Hmmm... Here is something more to the point---the Clinton's both have earned the lion's share of their substantial income from speaking fees. See a connection with your last statement concerning what Romney said...yet? 


GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 27 August 2016 - 03:08

Now the rest of the story. If you dare to look.  http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/






 


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