Studding my German Sherperd - Page 2

I agree,  your dog does have a very nice pedigree. Maybe you can discuss his breeding future with his breeder or someone who shows and breeds German showlines?

Is this pedigree correct? According to the birthdates listed in the pedigree,the dam,Jenna vom Kirchenwald,would have been 14 years old(!!) when she whelped this male.
Somehow that seems a bit ...."off" to me. Did I miss something?

I wondered, too.

where are you loacted

Aside from the fact that your dog is only a year of age, and ethical breeders of European line GSDs don't intentionally start breeding dogs before they're two years of age, so you've got a another year to get your male's health clearances taken care of [hips, elbows, heart certification, thyroid certification] that is indicative of his soundness and health, and put SOME kind of third-party credential on him [IPO, herding, obedience, tracking, SAR, *SOMETHING*] that would validate he's got a good work ethic as specimens of the breed should possess...

Chief Tom, may I ask who the breeder of your dog is? Because something is indeed very fishy here...

Running the registration number provided through the AKC's search engine results in no such dog with that registration number being found there. Likewise, running the dog's name, and versions of the name with variations in spacing between the three distinct parts, also yields no such dog registered according to the AKC database.

And then there's the biggest flag--Jenna vom Kirchenwald would indeed have been all of 14 years old when your dog was born, as she herself was whelped on June 11, 2000...and a bitch conceiving, let alone carrying and delivering a litter, at 14 years of age is highly unlikely, so much so that the AKC's Rules Applying to Registration and Discipline, page 7, Chapter 3: Registration, states:

SECTION 5. No dog or litter out of a dam under eight (8) months or over twelve (12) years of age at
time of mating, or by a sire under seven (7) months or over twelve (12) years of age at time of mating, will be
registered unless the application for registration shall be accompanied by an affidavit or evidence which shall prove
the fact to the satisfaction of The American Kennel Club.

They aren't going to accept that such a litter was whelped just on someone's say-so...because it's virtually biologically impossible that a German Shepherd Dog is going to conceive, carry and whelp a litter at the age of 14 years.

So something's not adding up. Jenna vom Kirchenwald might be your dog's GRANDmother, or GREAT GRANDmother, but she sure as hell isn't the mother of your dog, so either something wasn't entered properly, or someone's pulling something on someone else that smacks of deception and fraud...

There could always be the chance (playing devil's advocate here) that there was more than one Jenna vom Kirchenwald. Workingdogs.eu has a *Jenny* vom Kirchenwald listed, being born in 2004. Same sire as Jenna (and her littermates), interestingly enough, but different dams.

Dawulf, I believe if there were another Jenna vom Kirchenwald, she'd officially be Jenna vom Kirchenwald II--the AKC doesn't allow duplication of a registered name, and always adds a Roman numeral to them. Even Jenny vom Kirchenwald would be a stretch, though, since even she'd have been 10 years old at the time the OP's dog was whelped...still pretty advanced age for most breeders to use a bitch, but more plausible than a 14 year old dam. Hopefully the OP will be back to clarify.

Sorry had the female name wrong. I corrected it.

Well, that changes a lot of things...anyone who would want to consider using your dog for stud would want and need to know more than just the name of your dog's mother--they'll want to know the full pedigree behind HER, just as you've got shown for his father. They'll need to know about hip and elbow certifications on her, and whether or not she was breed surveyed and what her show rating was, and what level of Sch or IPO titling she's reached, or other working credentials she might have.

Without that information, you're not likely to have any serious interest from anyone seeking a male to breed their female to--owners of females need to be picky, because a bitch can only have so many litters in her lifetime, and each time she gives birth there is some degree of risk that she could die from complications, or at the very least have sufficient damage occur to her reproductive tract that it's the last litter she ever whelps. With so much on the line, a bitch owner is unlikely to risk a breeding with an immature dog that has no working or conformation credentials to his name yet, no hip and elbow certifications, and an unknown background on his mother's side. You may have a very nice dog--he certainly is an attractive youngster--but you also may have to come to grips with the reality that he is probably not breeding stock material, at least not at the moment, and it will take a great deal of work to get him to a place where he would be considered as suitable for breeding. Having two testicles in his scrotum, a handsome face, a pleasant disposition and a healthy libido is NOT what determines whether a dog should be used at stud--there's more to it than that, at least for people who are interested in producing the best GSD puppies possible and not how they can get their dogs and bitches to help pay their bills. Hopefully you fall into that first group; if it's the latter, then there's no point in anyone expending any more time on the subject, because the folks in the second group don't want to hear what the folks here have to say about it.

 Hexe !