Question to Two Moons - Page 11

To all conceren here.

The angel of the Lord makes promises to Hagar Ishmaels mother.

Gen.16:12
He{ Ishmael} will be a wild man;his hand will be against every man,and every mans hand agains him;and he shall dwell in the presence of all his bretheren.
In verses 10 and 12 there 5 promises.

1-Hagars seed {the Arab people}would be multiplied to the point where it could not be counted.
2--Will be a wild man refers to the fact that the bArab peoples will be free and roving.For 4000 years now God has enabeled Arab nations to keep their independence .
3---His hand will be against every man,This foretells the sin of the Arab people engaging in wars and uprisings.
4----And everymans hand against him,tHIS IS THE PUNISHMENT THAT aRAB NATIONS HAVE EXPERIENCED AND WILL EXPERIENCE IN THIS WORLD
5-----And they shalldwell in the presence of all his bretheren.

Ishmael became the father of 12 sons and a daughter.  He died at the age of 137.
The 12 sons are described in Gen. 25:12-15

I believe these 12 sons of Ishmael{father of the Arabs} could possibly be considered the peope of Lebenon,Syria,Yemen,Jordan,Egypt,Saudia Arabia,Sudan,Libya,Algeria, Tusnisia,Morocco and Iraq.  These Arabcountries ha two thirds of the worlds proven oil. The Arabs control three million square miles of territory.   God has certainly fulfilled Hid promises made over 4000 years ago to Hagar{Ishmaels mother}  The Arab people are blessed.they have multiplied exeedingly.The and their lands are fruitfull.
And just as God has made these promisses to be fulfilled,His promises that te Arabs...hand will be against every man,and everymans hand against him is also being fulfilled.

The Arabs must come to realize that Gen. 15:18 and Jeremiah 23:7-8 along with other scrptures refernces promise Palestine to Israel  from the River of Egypt to the river Euphrates,some 180.000 square miles.

Now does this sound like  HATE MUNGERING,  The Arab people may claim ALL THE PROMISSES OF GOD,The promise of eternal life by accepting Christ as saviour and Lord ROM.10:9-13,the promise of a heavenly home John 14:2-3.

P.S. The Antichrist spirit is alive and well on the GS database,plus someof  the Christians here are just a bunch of wimpering lukewarm chidren. What will you do when the real battle start,will you come out of your shell and fight fo your chidrens souls

    gouda

Yes we can agree she's pretty, she's nice too, she helps those in need, she does lot of work on education and schools, she does not wear Muslim costume, maybe she does not pray 5 times a day I don't know but I know I like her a lot from what I see of her deeds.

Ibrahim

Gouda,
No matter what man does, spirit is everlasting.
My spirit is not in any danger from your beliefs.
If man is doomed it is by his own hand.
Moons.

Keith wrote

Question to Two Moons by Keith Grossman on 03 November 2011 - 17:11	Keith Grossman Post: 1433 of 1435 Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:18 pm
"Im hear to preach the truth according to the word of God." Which begs the question why?  Is your faith so tenuous that it requires constant validation by convincing others that it's true?  My reply  Just to sow a seed that may change your mind and receive the gift of eterna life some day.  Thats how much a care for the non believers here.   gouda

2 moons wrote

Gouda,
.
My spirit is not in any danger from your beliefs.
If man is doomed it is by his own hand.
Moons. 

Reply--  Exactly  You have a free wiil to believe or not to believe.

  gouda

Yes free will,
and the good manners not to condemn others for their differences.
If there is conflict between us it not by my hand but yours.

Moons.

MOONS

There is no conflict between you and I.
YOU ARE IN CONFLICT WITH THE WORD OF GOD.

    gouda

Those natives in the Amazon who thought the airplane was a god, were eventually murdered and ran off their land by timber companies.

 

GOD DOES NOT need validated by man..
Everything that is being discussed in this thread is really irrelevant to a DIVINE and SOVEREIGN CREATOR...: )
God is NOT at man's mercy , but man at God's mercy...
God does NOT need to answer to man, but man to God..
It is God's pleasure and delight to reveal truth when and to whom he wants and to withhold it as it pleases Him to do..
Make no mistake, GOD WILL have the last word...,,,God in His mercy and kindness bears with, and contends with the ignorance and arrogance of man. It is similar to the way our father and mothers played with us as small children. Do you really think that a small child beat his mother at checkers or that a grown healthy adult father lost a running race to his toddler?? lol..
It is the same way God bears with us now..It will not always be this way and a day is coming when every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God...: )

Thats right ,
obey or else.