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by 1doggie2 on 24 April 2010 - 04:04
If you do not mind I would love to hear how you found out it was one of yours and what you had to go thru tho get him home.

by urry on 24 April 2010 - 04:04

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 25 April 2010 - 01:04
As the weather started to break my husband was doing work up our camp and on several different ocassions he stopped to see Thunder and the guy always had some excuse that the dog was "playing at a friends while he was at work". After the 4th time my husband grew suspicious he no longer had the dog or something happend to him so he asked another friend of ours to level with us. The man thought we knew he was placed with someone else and he told us he was told Thunder was "temporarily" given to these people until the guy moved. My husband immediately confronted his friend and told him he broke our agreement and demanded the dog back. The guy willing said "oh yes absolutely I will get him back and you can pick him up next week". This was the weekend BEFORE the family got killed. That Sunday my husband came home and told me that the following week Thunder would be coming back. By Sunday evening we got a frantic call from his "friend" telling us this tragic story and that Thunder bit a trooper while guarding the body and he's in quarantine at the humane society. He still is adament that he did not "give" the dog away. So first thing Monday morning I called everyone from the dog warden to the humane society to claim the dog. It was a horrific nightmare. It took hiring an attorney and the help of some friends to track down the victims daughter in order for me to get the dog back. I had to sign releases, pay a to of money and fight like hell to get this dog back.
They told me he was "vicious", he was "trained to bite" (not true, we did nothing but OB with this dog and the people who had him (both of them) had nooo idea about training dogs, they told me no one could get near him accept 1 lady at the shelter....none of it was true when I got there. He jumped and licked all over us; maybe he remembered us but when we got home he was a gentlemen with the kids and he was fine with my other dogs. Is he "protective"?? YES! With "his people he is". He's not "vicious", he is not an "attack dog" but he is cautious with people that come too close to my husband. He will growl to warn you you are too close. He's been through a horrible very violent oredeal. He's lucky to be alive. It's rumored that the suspect who killed these folks was a "friend of the victims". We do not know if Thunder ever had a chance to attack him. I'm so very happy to have him home even though the second owner neutered him. I had even had his hips prelimbed before I placed him. BUT he is a great dog, I love him, I know

by poseidon on 25 April 2010 - 01:04

by GSDtravels on 25 April 2010 - 01:04
by 1doggie2 on 25 April 2010 - 02:04

by Pharaoh on 25 April 2010 - 03:04
Glad you got him back Agar.
Michele

by DebiSue on 25 April 2010 - 12:04

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 26 April 2010 - 00:04
The "rumor" is the "killer" was a friend or at least well known acquiantance of the couple. The suspect who is rumored to be responsilble has been arressted but on unrelated charges of robbing a drug store a week prior to the killing and also when the troopers searched his home they found quite a professional "grow house" set up. The double homicide is still under investigation.
I asked many questions regarding the dog and the circumstances simply because I wanted to have an idea of what the dog was like since the time he lived with us. The Humane Society was vague although tried to be helpful at the same time because they knew my concern was the dog PERIOD. All I was told was considering the circumstances that the dog bit all parties agreed it was understandable and I think that is why he was not shot by the troopers.
I do know an investigator did visit the first owner of the dog and even asked for his homeowner's insurance for the dog bite...not sure why since the dog bite took place at the victims home who claimed him from the 1st guy.
I did have to sign a release holding the Humane Society harmless of any future liability on personal injury or property damage from the date I picked him up from the shelter. I would assume the victim's estate would be liable of any lawsuit since they've claimed owning the dog at the time this happend. I also had to sign a release stating I knew the dog had bitten someone and I was accepting any liability from the date I regained ownership of him.
I was told by the victim's daughter that Thunder was very protective of his family and would growl at any adult that approached her parents, especially her dad. He was great with kids and did better with women than men IF he was introduced to them first without them approaching him and his owner on their own.
We too have noticed this to be the case with him since we've had him so we just use caution to protect everyone.
by 1doggie2 on 26 April 2010 - 05:04
I am so very glad he is in hands that understand the breed and his situation. This possiveness/protection might get worse before it gets better (with your help and guidence). We had a female that was tramatized when I was young, I wish I would have been able to help her, I just did not know enough at the time. Now I know enough, GET HELP!
I know alot of people state they only live in the present and forget the past, I do not believe that. If this was true they would not learn.
We had to be careful, and it took us a while to understand what would set her off, a mans cologne (one brand) one sniff and she was wild. ( when I say a while, I mean a long time, we were not to quick on the uptake). It was really hard because she could smell the stuff a mile off.
Ours, was stolen out of a locked car in front of the grocery store, and raped and beaten by a human. she was very young at the time, Great Dane with her ears still taped and head gear on. We got her back in a few days from posters nailed all over the city. Someone found her wondering and called. She was like a human female that was raped in personality after that, would not leave her room or her bed, she shared a room with my sister and had her own bed. Took us along time to get her downstairs, with water bowl and one stair at a time over days. Getting her to go out side was a chore for a long time. I really do not think she was ever comfortable in her own skin after that.
I would be very interested in knowing his progress and how you deal with him, If you do not mind.
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