What are the views of Silver Sabes? - Page 2

Chevedoe, I don't want to burst anybody's bubbles, but in my opinion, silver sables are just washed out sables, period. We breed sables and I would cringe if I had colours like that. Our breed standard calls for strong pigmentation, that goes for sables just as well as black & tans (reds). If you need to see nice sables, please click on www.arlett.de How can you be proud of "white recessive"? That is against our breed standard. MHO, Chris Sorry everybody, for my outburst. I don't mean to offend anybody, but I think we commit a crime if we don't stand by our breed standard, no matter what your goal in breeding is.

No Offense taken. Her and another Vet do genetic research on the GSD's. That info was on the second site, at the bottom. I understand everyone has favorite colors. I personally like the whites, my DH told me no way. I also love the silver sable, to me they look so wolf like. She does belong to the WGSDCA, and does alot of showing through them. Anyway, All comments are welcome, everyone has one, whether everyone likes it or not. It's nice to get all around views.

Silbersee, I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALY....we are all aloud an outburst or two...I was trying to be nice all along I scared my son to death with my screaming and cringing in here...lol

Here is a couple pictures of my boy and our rescue Weim. They are not the best of pictures but I will have more up soon. http://pages.ivillage.com/cheye_doe/

Cheyedoe, what do you mean with DH? If you like White Shepherds (please note that I do not call them German Shepherds), you would be on the wrong forum. I like to believe that none of the regular contributors believe in anything other than the breed standard. After all, a breed standard guards a breed, that goes for any breed, not just the GSD. I have heard of that lady, she has been around for a long time advertising "silver" dogs, used to have a regular ad in the GSD Quarterly. If you look at our standard, there is no mentioning of "silver" or "white" dogs. White dogs are beautiful, but not in our breed. Wolf-like dogs, I would recommend one of the Northern breeds. Thanks Het, for agreeing with me. I do get testy when people start to do "genetic research". Do you guys remember the ?? What was the name of that abomination, the black and white? Makosh, you also have a good point. Who is buying all these puppies? Even, if there are enough buyers, are they sold with limited registration? Even when, people will breed with these dogs. Don't we have enough pets trying to find a home? Our rescue organizations have enough on their hands as it is. JMO, Chris

My Dear Husband, grew up raising and showing the older style in USA in the 70-80's. Which he referred to Black and Silvers. When I went searching for this color was when I found the Sables. And yes my dog cannot be bred until he is OFA certified and she is content with the findings, and if he were to pass away at an early age he must be sent to Perdue University for an autopsy. As for dogs, my personal favorite is the Weimaraner, my husbands has always been the GSD. Most of the info is for him, he is the one who wants most of the info. And just wanted to know why they fell out of favor. I do know the GSD rules for AKC, and as far as I can tell my personal dog meets their Criteria. He has both American and German Working Lines with in 4-5 Generations at the most, by all sires and dams. I thought the same thing with all the pups. When I purchased my dog he was the last of the litter. And another litter was not due til sometime in fall. And I understand the whole rescue thing. When our last Weimaraner passed away, we decided to go for a rescue Weimaraner. I rescued a pup that was 8 months old, and when he was 4mo he was left in a house where the owners moved and left him. He was barely alive after a month. But with the love of his foster mom, he pulled through it. There are some of us people out here who have no intentions of breeding, so we do adopt an animal that is neutered, to give them a forever home. My husband does believe our GSD is a perfect example of the breed standard. That is why we were looking at showing him.

Cheyedog, I am truly sorry that I gave you the impression to accuse you of breeding these kind of dogs. That was not intended. My remark about breeding and rescue organizations was in response to Makash's post. So DH means Dear Husband? These abbreviations, I learned something new. Have to tell my DH, lol. Take care, Chris

there are very few American lines that are "working lines" as the AKC is mostly looking at confermation...they don't require much to show....will you win??? mostlikly not, they look at color and the silver is not the "in" color...In my opinion, people who breed for a color let go of other things, health, temperment, standard ect. I didn't see one dog on her site that I though looked good enough to show...maybe you could look at the fun matches or do agility or something else...AKC is a breed registry and doesn't really care anything about any of the breeds, they are in it to make money...if they did care they wouldn't alow brother sister breedings..ect..So I would base your standard on the breeds Country who does care about the breed, hence the strict rules. Heather

Silbersee Thank You, I do appreciate all the comments. Sorry I got mad, I took it as personal attack. No harm done. Het, Thanks, I will do some more research on German lines and tell my husband. When ours is in pose, I haven't found one on her site to match his quality. Martha

Is that a black and white GSD???? Raebark's Tazer Daze (under studs) No offense but yuck! Cheyedoe- You have alot to learn about the GSD honey. Most of us have been there, don't be offended. Enjoy your pet, do obedience and agility, give AKC confirmation a shot if you wish. Meanwhile learn as much as you can about the GSD all the different lines AM bred, German show, Ger. working, titles, ratings etc. Go to www.Leerburg.com it is a very informative site with alot of reading material about the GSD. Look at all the ads for adults and puppies, learn about German and European titles. Don't be offended as this site generally favors the German style of breeding and I am surprised the Raebark site has not generated more criticism by this sites regulars. Even after all this you may still have your preferences towards Raebark type dogs, then all the best to you. But I don't want you to come away from this site bitter, without truly understanding what I have learned in the past few years and a couple dogs later.