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by HighDesertGSD on 11 July 2012 - 19:07
"It is not all 'lean meat and bone'."
I did not say that.
The subject here is first the significance of correct Ca:P.
Then it become calcium for pups.
I did not say that.
The subject here is first the significance of correct Ca:P.
Then it become calcium for pups.
by HighDesertGSD on 11 July 2012 - 19:07
Nature also does not grieve for a few dogs that die from bacterial infection.
There is also haphazardness to nature. May be this haphazardness is keeping the avaliable ca to pups in the wild within normal range.
Nature is quite relevant in discussion, but adherence to it is not always optimal.
Besides, one may just appear to be adhering to nature but is actually not. Do you know how much ca your pup is taking in vs. natural way?
There is also haphazardness to nature. May be this haphazardness is keeping the avaliable ca to pups in the wild within normal range.
Nature is quite relevant in discussion, but adherence to it is not always optimal.
Besides, one may just appear to be adhering to nature but is actually not. Do you know how much ca your pup is taking in vs. natural way?
by HighDesertGSD on 11 July 2012 - 20:07
imagine a pack of wolves preying on a large game animal. Some (higher ranking) animals dig into the belly and eat all organ meat and belly fat. The calcium is very low in such a meal. The regurgitated stuff fed to pups for that day is very low in calcium. In such case, the meager ca comes from the mineral rich water in most places in north america.
If a wolf eat a smaller animal whole, the ca content will be high for that meal and for the pups as regurgitated food.
There must be a lot of hapharzardness in ca content in food for wild pups.
If a wolf eat a smaller animal whole, the ca content will be high for that meal and for the pups as regurgitated food.
There must be a lot of hapharzardness in ca content in food for wild pups.
by Abby Normal on 12 July 2012 - 15:07
There is a degree of 'haphazardness' for want of a better word, which is why with this way of feeding the key is balance over time, not on a meal by meal basis, it cannot work that way. Much the same way that the majority of people (unless they are overly obssessive) do not balance each meal rigidly with exactly the right intake of the correct amounts of vits/veg/fruit etc, unless they are on some form of medical diet.
As I say, each will choose his own path, and what he/she deems to be the best for their own dog or pup, and based on results and experience.
BTW Calcium:Phos ratio becomes very important in old age, especially in a dog with compromised kidney function. Raw green tripe I believe has an almost perfect natural calc:phos ratio.
As I say, each will choose his own path, and what he/she deems to be the best for their own dog or pup, and based on results and experience.
BTW Calcium:Phos ratio becomes very important in old age, especially in a dog with compromised kidney function. Raw green tripe I believe has an almost perfect natural calc:phos ratio.
by HighDesertGSD on 12 July 2012 - 16:07
This type of haphazardness of ca intake for pups in nature may not be the best, or better than daily deliberate amounts.
Nature may not be the best , but is good enough for enough pups to mature well enough for the species to continue.
I believe my dogs are in very good shape eating mostly the Kirkland Chicken formula, with some rarely cooked chicken neck and well-cooked chicken skin and the joint tissues of chicken.
Nature may not be the best , but is good enough for enough pups to mature well enough for the species to continue.
I believe my dogs are in very good shape eating mostly the Kirkland Chicken formula, with some rarely cooked chicken neck and well-cooked chicken skin and the joint tissues of chicken.
by Abby Normal on 12 July 2012 - 17:07
I believe my dogs are in very good shape eating mostly the Kirkland Chicken formula, with some rarely cooked chicken neck and well-cooked chicken skin and the joint tissues of chicken.
That's all that matters :)
by HighDesertGSD on 12 July 2012 - 19:07
Nature is natural.
The process of elimination to sustain a population is also natural.
Both pathogens and host have genetic variations. Some bacteria are particularly virulent and some dogs are particularily vulnerable. This is the natural ecological state.
To have a population of dogs that are generally resistence to a pathogen, the weak hosts have to be contiunually eliminated from the gene pool.
We do not value our dogs based on the normal prowess of resistence to bacteria in the diet.
Also, we have not, so the present gene pool of domesticated dogs are not quite the product after genetic elimination of the weak, as for wild dogs.
The process of elimination to sustain a population is also natural.
Both pathogens and host have genetic variations. Some bacteria are particularly virulent and some dogs are particularily vulnerable. This is the natural ecological state.
To have a population of dogs that are generally resistence to a pathogen, the weak hosts have to be contiunually eliminated from the gene pool.
We do not value our dogs based on the normal prowess of resistence to bacteria in the diet.
Also, we have not, so the present gene pool of domesticated dogs are not quite the product after genetic elimination of the weak, as for wild dogs.
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