Where are they ? - Page 9

Good luck Ruger! LOL

Do you really not see that your answer is a contradictory and incomplete position ?

Ruger, at this point you can say ..."hundmutter you are right, i am converted to your ways"..and yet you will still be wrong or contradictory to yourself...it almost does not matter what topic is discussed, people opinions are being disagreed on based who you are and not what you know/belief....if joanro or Hundmutter or travelers does not like you, you can compliment them and they will see it as an insult....and it will have nothing to do with your belief or what you say, and everything with you as a posted under a specific name...

I will make this as plain as possible: 

We humans are all born equally depraved due to original sin. 

This is critical in understanding why there are NO innocent babies, children, natives etc,,,,

Now! We are all born enemies of God as it where,,, justly deserving His wrath. However, God being gracious and in keeping with OT teaching sets aside a people for Himself that He shows mercy towards.

Not that anyone is more deserving then the next, but that is the way God chooses to operate. We are all born by birth right, sinners, enemies of God, haters of God etc,,,

When we are in this state of depravity some live like law abiding citizens and some live like C Manson. But make no mistake both are no closer to God then the other. Sure there are consequences and benefits to both scenarios , but spiritually  speaking they are equally as guilty before God. 

See, we error is in comparing ourselves to eachother, rather then to God ,,You must understand God requires perfect holiness !!! Did I say perfect holiness !! Your not going to be justified based on being better then your neighbor,,,

Hence , Christ the perfect atonment and representative God in the flesh! 

 

 

I will make this as plain as possible: 

We humans are all born equally depraved due to original sin. 

This is critical in understanding why there are NO innocent babies, children, natives etc,,,,

Now! We are all born enemies of God as it where,,, justly deserving His wrath. However, God being gracious and in keeping with OT teaching sets aside a people for Himself that He shows mercy towards.

Not that anyone is more deserving then the next, but that is the way God chooses to operate. We are all born by birth right, sinners, enemies of God, haters of God etc,,,

When we are in this state of depravity some live like law abiding citizens and some live like C Manson. But make no mistake both are no closer to God then the other. Sure there are consequences and benefits to both scenarios , but spiritually  speaking they are equally as guilty before God. 

See, we error is in comparing ourselves to eachotner, rather then to God ,,You must understand God requires perfect holiness !!! Did I say perfect holiness !!

Hence , Christ the perfect atonment and representative God in the flesh! 

 

 

If we are all born to be haters of god because we are all sinners, whether we believe in any god(s) or none,

why do posters like Shtal and Mountain LIon constantly berate atheists for being tares, devil-spawn, miserablists,

liars, haters, trouble-makers etc ?  Seems we are no better or worse than they are !

 

LF  I will buy you a wooden spoon for Xmas at the current rate of your unneccessary stirring.

I have no opinion on what Ruger (or you, for that matter)  is "like";  nor do I dislike Ruger.   I would

normally say I don't feel any dislike for you / your posts either,  but I certainly find you/them

irritating, sometimes.   Just as ML cannot possibly know how miserable or viscious I really am

(or am not)  'cos he simply does not know me or enough about me, that goes both ways.  I do not

know either of you,  to want to draw conclusions about you personaly.  I think I keep my temper and

away from just insulting people reasonably consistently.  Just because not everyone does, and/or

because  I am trying to have a dialogue about the rights & wrongs,  logic or not, of religion, there

are no grounds for you to claim what you have.  Disagreeing with you does not turn it into a game of hatred. 

No wonder people kill each other instead of getting along, ruger's post explains all. No wonder that bastard murdered his five INNOCENT children and drove across country with their rotting bodies in his car before dumping them....according to Ruger, he was justified in murdering them and according to Ruger, they had it coming to them...talk about fucked up...sure am glad I have free will and choose NOT to believe all that crap Ruger has posted here. Those poor INNOCENT little kids....they were innocent!

Joan you sound miserable today!

"...according to Ruger, he was justified in murdering them and according to Ruger, they had it coming to them...talk about fucked up"

Well half of your above comment is right ~ something is f#%¥#% up.. Smh,, I will give you one guess who Joan,,,

 

I know I said I was done, but this cannot go unsaid. 
 

God hates:

Proverbs 6 :17

¹⁷ A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Why innocent blood if no one is innocent?