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by Keith Grossman on 16 February 2016 - 18:02
by Bavarian Wagon on 16 February 2016 - 18:02
by Keith Grossman on 16 February 2016 - 18:02
by susie on 16 February 2016 - 19:02
Looking at myself, I know I am very good at finding puppies suiting my needs, I am very good in raising self sufficient, civil dogs, and I am very good in training for bitework ( be it PP or IPO ). I am no hero in obedience ( although my dogs were titled ) and I am a looser in tracking ( although the dogs passed, and 2 were in the 90s). but there are people out there who make me looking like a novice after training 30+ years.
I do have a very good eye for conformation, and I have an outstanding feeling for handling ( perfect stack, gait, speed ) on shows, although some people might think bitework and shows don´t fit together - but I know I am a moron in "high class" obedience and (worse) tracking. I just don´t have "the feeling" for it...
Others are experts in tracking, obedience, or whatever - I´ll never learn it. So what?
A lot of international competitors are not able to raise a puppy, but they are able to train a green or IPO titled dog to a high level - different qualities, but not worth less.
There are some single people able to do all of it, but they are rare, and they deserve all our respect.
Every dog is different, every handler is different, the training develops, the goals change - in case you want to achieve anything ( be it sport, real life, or show ) you need a team, and in case you are open minded you will not stop to learn during your whole life with dogs.
by joanro on 16 February 2016 - 19:02
by Gustav on 17 February 2016 - 12:02
by Hundmutter on 17 February 2016 - 13:02
Wouldn't it be a boring world if everyone
was the same ?
by Gustav on 17 February 2016 - 13:02
by Bavarian Wagon on 17 February 2016 - 16:02
I’m also not talking about the people that do have something to offer and do it in a respectful and humble way, what I see a lot of is people that make it out like they are way more than they truly are. Usually this is done by discrediting other successful people that actually have proven accomplishments, convincing the “general public” that their methods are better, and especially when it comes to Schutzhund/IPO its that the sport has changed and they’ve decided that their way is better which is why they can’t score high or in most cases even get a passing score (if they enter trials in the first place). Many times it’s not the people themselves that are the issue, it’s their “royal court” that comes in to defend them with “do you know who you’re talking to?” and “this person has been in it for 30 years, what have you done!?!?!” And when you tell them that the person they’re defending hasn’t actually done anything in the last 25 years…they refuse to believe it. It’s the people that make themselves out to be something they’re not, and their supporters, that end up driving away those that have more knowledge and also new people just getting involved that might have some new ideas to bring to the table.
A lot of this is truly an internet issue. It’s because the posters can’t prove their ability, and anyone looking to refute them, can’t just point and say “look, they truly don’t know what they’re doing.” People keep videos and scores hidden because they know what that will show about their training or their dogs. You don’t tend to see this in real life because when someone at your club claims to be great at X, Y, or Z…they have to generally prove it minutes later and then everyone that’s there can see that they’re full of it. On the internet, it’s hard to prove/disprove people’s claims about their abilities…especially when you’re trying to convince people that have never/will never be involved in the training you’re discussing.
by Keith Grossman on 17 February 2016 - 16:02
That's especially true when people don't use their real names.
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