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by joanro on 31 October 2013 - 15:10
I was speaking in general, as an example.
by Jenni78 on 31 October 2013 - 15:10
deleted; spoke for Joan and then she spoke for herself!
by cborso22 on 31 October 2013 - 16:10
Makes sense, just checking!
by Jeffs on 31 October 2013 - 18:10
Prong collars don't cause that much pain. Some dogs just don't like to be corrected. I have to be careful when correcting one of my dogs with a prong because if the other dog is near by, he assumes the correction came from the subordinate dog and will go after him.
I know someone that picked up a 3 year old mali that was biting everyone. The previous owner told him not to use a prong or to grab him by the nape. My friend is able to use the prong and grab the dog by the nape with no problem - because the dolg lets him. The point being, it's awfully hard to generalize.
In any event, growling at children is serious business. Find a good trainer to help you.
I know someone that picked up a 3 year old mali that was biting everyone. The previous owner told him not to use a prong or to grab him by the nape. My friend is able to use the prong and grab the dog by the nape with no problem - because the dolg lets him. The point being, it's awfully hard to generalize.
In any event, growling at children is serious business. Find a good trainer to help you.
by Chaz Reinhold on 31 October 2013 - 20:10
Jenni, I'm not disagreeing with you, but what is the breeder going to do unless they are also trainers? I don't know who bred this dog, and I don't care. They need a trainer. Someone qualified to look at the dog. Obviously the owner is new and needs help.
by Jenni78 on 31 October 2013 - 21:10
Maybe the breeder is a trainer. Maybe I PM'd you who the breeder was. I'm not disagreeing with you, either, in general. I'm simply saying in this case, I think the first stop should've been the breeder for the reasons I've already stated. I think the OP is done with this thread and I don't want to keep it going all for naught. We're not getting anywhere w/the limited info we have.
by Chaz Reinhold on 31 October 2013 - 22:10
Agree.
by Kalibeck on 01 November 2013 - 21:11
Ok, I'm just going to throw my $0.02 in the hat. The dogs recent surgery & rehab may be the culprits. I have seen a happy, well socialized, confident pup become fearful & clingy after a major surgery. It took me the better part of 3 years to bring her back to herself. Her surgery was at 7 months, & it was like it altered her whole personality. She DID NOT become aggressive toward children, but barked fearfully at everyone. Kids she still loved, but she saw kids daily, even when she was crated & recuperating. I think some dogs have trouble regaining trust after surgery.
However, while we did constant socialization, I never felt she was a threat. Your dog may be safer while you continue your socialization & training if you put a wire basket muzzle on your dog while you're anywhere children may be present. Get your dog used to it at home, feed him rewards through it so he doesn't see it as a punishment. They are not that pricey, & well worth it to protect you & your dog from one off guard second, 'cause that's all it takes. Good luck, & best wishes.
jackie harris
However, while we did constant socialization, I never felt she was a threat. Your dog may be safer while you continue your socialization & training if you put a wire basket muzzle on your dog while you're anywhere children may be present. Get your dog used to it at home, feed him rewards through it so he doesn't see it as a punishment. They are not that pricey, & well worth it to protect you & your dog from one off guard second, 'cause that's all it takes. Good luck, & best wishes.
jackie harris
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