Is this justifiable?? - Page 2

In GSDs, PRA is usually meant in reference to persistant right aortic arch.  Progressive retinal atrophy isn't an issue in this breed, but the former condition is.

PRAA is persistant right aortic arch and PRA is Progressive Retinal Atrophy.   While PRA is not necessarily prominent in the breed, it does appear to be present.  For some information on PRA:

www.upei.ca/~cidd/Diseases/ocular%20disorders/Progressive%20Retinal%20Atrophy.htm

www.optigen.com

My understanding is that PRAA is more present in the GSD.  Here is some info on that disorder:

www.vetsurgerycentral.com/gi_praa.htm

FWIW, I would not consider it wise or ethical to breed a dog that young.  Besides the health issues, I do not believe that a dog has matured enough to see if it is tempermentally what I would want to breed but perhaps that is just me.
 

getreal,
I've trained with a person who had a Yoschy (Doll.) sired litter, she kept a bitch and a male.  the bitch would not bark, She would be at the end of the tie out, staring intensely at the helper,  would crouch and wait till he got close enough for her to lunge up and grab the sleeve. 

the helper had to actively threaten the dog, hit close to her feet with the whip and finally they got her to start barking. tagged her toes a few times, but it worked.  most evil bitch I have ever seen :)

PRA is in the breed, (luckilly not yet widespread) as are other genetic eye issues such as pannus, retinal dysplasia and folds and cataracts and corneal problems.  It is a good general practice to have eyes examined yearly by an board certified canine ophthamologist.

Cathy

I am surrounded by so-called breeders who produce such junk. Poor dogs. Poor fools that buy them.
We are forever faced with buyers showing up out here on the recommendation of said so-called breeders, expecting that their dogs will do the sport, and us having to explain why they won't, point out and explain various health and structural issues, etc. I get very weary of having to be the bad guy at those times. No matter how gently delivered, there is no way to be honest and not see a very disappointed owner put the less-than-marginal dog they dreamed of working back in the car for the ride home. It breaks my heart sometimes. Other times the owner gets defensive, cusses me out and burns rubber down the street. Rarely does anyone offer to pay me for the hour or two, or three, that they were here. Lose-lose all the way around. I can thinkof at least half a dozen of those kennels within about 45 min. of my place. I wish they would just  STOP breeding their dogs and selling them as police K9 and SchH prospects.
Oh yeah. Half of them are sold with "Breeder's Rights" clauses where the breeder gets to use the dog for breeding, neither age nor even minimal breed suitability a factor, to produce dozens more of same.
Sickening!
SS

what is justifiable anyway?
This started out on the wrong foot to begin with.
SSDD.

Do you mean the paret has EPI rather than pancreatitis?  There is a big difference.    Are they putting any thought to matching this male with a female without those conditions?  Is this male even AKC show rated to show he has structure or anything of value to the breed??  If not, then yes, they are out for a few bucks and not thinking of the dogs.

This is an older post....  All you have to do is check out their website.  It speaks for itself.  I see they did remove the stud dogs age which is 16 months.  This dog has sired several litters already.


Shannan




http://www.camelotshepherds.com/

What is this alert dog title?  Never heard of it.

spernagsds, you just described the typical AKC GSD breeder. No fault is to serious to disqualify for breeding. Bad hips, elbows, temperament, pano, anything goes,  just give the buyer a contract and cash the check.

I know 1st hand a woman who had a testicle installed in her very nice male. His dam's very successful show career was cut short because of a (genetic) spine problem.

Believe what you want, but stuff such as you describe is not unusual, as a matter of fact, I would call most of it the norm. Lots of people who preach the high road will take a detour when it's their check book getting hit.

Rik