Raw Feeding and Salmonella ??? - Page 2

JustLurkin, a dog can be colonized with salmonella and not be ill, yet he could transmit to humans.  My response was to the original poster in effort of finding info specific to their question.  All of my post is a direct quote from the article cited. 

Safe handling of the food itself is a no brainer.  There are still risks to be assessed especially with children in the house.  Safe handling still does not mean no risk to children who come in contact with dogs fed raw.

Hmmmmm......

Safe handling of the food itself is a no brainer.  There are still risks to be assessed especially with children in the house.  Safe handling still does not mean no risk to children who come in contact with dogs fed raw.

Everything has it's risk.  We've been feeding raw for about 10yrs and have concluded that feeding kibble is far risker including the risk of salmonella and other bacteria. IMO the real safe guard is buying quality meat unlike 99% of kibble manufactures who often start out with dieased meats or poorly handled meats.

- Susan

Susan, exactly, everything has risks.  We need to assess benefit vs risk and make our own decisions.  There is no harm in examining evidence, scientific research, practical experience of people we encounter and making our own decisions.  For those I know who choose raw, they are quite happy with the results.  It's not what I choose.

JustLurkin, I'm not sure why you are offended to hear someone say something negative about raw feeding.  From some of the other topics I sense you are taking this personally?  It's pretty silly really.  I'm happy for your dogs you are able to feed raw.  Good for you.

If you want a list of scientific studies specific to salmonella and risks to humans via pets, you can google and get a list a mile long.  I put in two different things and got results too long to list here.  Google salmonella transmission to humans via canines or zoonotic disease salmonella.

It happens.  One has to assess benefit vs risk and go from there.  If this is the best choice for you at your house I am happy, as I firmly believe raw is the best choice for the health of the dogs...not necessarily the best choice for the health of the people living with those dogs, but then each has to make their own choices. 

Sue-Ann, what offends me is when people who have not fed raw and don't know what they're talking about post negatives.

There are risks in both manners of feeding. 

Evidence (from your post) starting when and ending when?  How many participated during that time and how many contracted salmonella?  Same for scientific research (start when/end when before the report) and practical experience (starting when/ending when before the report and how closely was that monitored).  I've done my research on it.

I read about DM, JRD, Pano, Mega-E, SIBO, etc.  In 38 years (many of the dogs were rescues) we've never seen or experienced any of it.  It's one of the reasons that I never post to threads asking about it.  I can't speak from experience.  Threads about skin condition this and allergy that?  Can't post to those either for the same reason.

Ear infections/mites, hot spots, which kibble is better.  I can't respond or answer honestly to those either.  I've not had the issue and can't honestly say that any kibble, much less "which" kibble is better.

I've seen the report you cited.  It's again veterinary medicine based.  Veterinarians don't know/study much about nutrition before going into practice.  They do get a percentage of whatever feeds they sell and rely on the manufacturer of those feeds for quality guarantees.  They have no reason to research further.

But I'm certainly not offended by those that choose not to feed raw.   A good friend of mine still feeds Purina One.  She always comments about how good my dogs look.  She knows what I feed.  I know what she feeds and feels about raw feeding.  It's not a topic for discussion.  I just can't comment on how her dogs look.  Coat, ears (and her constant complaints about them) etc. 

It's a choice people make.  Be accurately (not scare-tactically) informed and feed what's best for your dog.  Supervise that feeding if you don't think it's safe for the rest of the family.

BTW....have you ever taken a pound of premium kibble and a pound of properly washed, packaged and frozen raw and had it tested at a lab?  You might consider it and you might be very surprised at the results.   Costly but it's an eye-opener.

Just curious as I'm switching to RAW. How can feeding RAW increase salmonella risk beyond what is encountered from everyday food preparation. My family has chicken 3 - 4 times per week. Have done so in excess of 30 years. While I have seen much advice given on how to avoid salmonella exposure, I have never seen anyone advise to avoid chicken.

Most people know that there is a risk of salmonella exposure when dealing with raw meats. I do not know anyone who avoids raw meats because of this specific risk. While I certainly plan to adhere to accepted hygiene practices for the handling of raw foods, the risk of salmonella is pretty low on my list of reasons not to feed RAW.

Best, Rik

JustLurkin, I have fed raw and also have a degree in Biology, minor in Chemistry and Post graduate work in Microbiology as well as Hospital Lab experience with pathogenic bacteria.

If you want access to more information as I mentioned, you can google it.  There are scores of studies for people to read should they choose to.  You need not take issue with me for ernestly trying to help posters seeking information.  It's their decision to make and they do have a right to be fully informed. 

I havn't just posted negatives about raw and you need to stop making me your target of the day.