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by Red Sable on 07 October 2009 - 15:10
I'm with you Shannan.
by spernagsds on 07 October 2009 - 16:10
THANK YOU
Shannan :)
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by Two Moons on 07 October 2009 - 17:10
I guess its my turn to chime in,
Weather this flu is man made or natural it now shares the planet with us, if our bodies cannot adapt to it and build the necessary immunities naturally then we have been selected for extinction.
If your afraid that going out in the sun will give you skin cancer how do you plan on surviving?
Do we live in a bubble?
Are we doomed to live beneath the surface of the earth, breath only prepared air?
Will our lives depend on chemical technology for survival?
What about the water and our food supply?
Do you really believe cigarettes are the only carcinogen in the environment that causes lung cancer?
Who profits from all this fear?
I see job security being created for doctors, hospitals and drug companies.
More dependency on the government, health care politics at work.
Another form of (bailout) as I see it, based in fear.
What do you see everywhere? They are preying on the fears of us all, everyone wants to live.
Who will have the power over life and death?
Don't tell me God, I don't wanna hear it.
And who here really trusts the government, the medical community, the drug companies, or the courts?
Mandatory?
BULL SHIT !!!
You take risks every day, you have choices. If I hear mandatory I know its bull shit.
You would have to apply this mandate world wide and we all know thats not gonna happen.
Believe what you will about this vaccine but never allow the government to mandate your health.
This vaccine is not properly tested, this flu is not showing signs of being the deadly monster they feared, and there are several strains out there, not just one.
Take the shot if you choose, but force it on no one.
And please, stop blaming everything on the Israelis.
Weather this flu is man made or natural it now shares the planet with us, if our bodies cannot adapt to it and build the necessary immunities naturally then we have been selected for extinction.
If your afraid that going out in the sun will give you skin cancer how do you plan on surviving?
Do we live in a bubble?
Are we doomed to live beneath the surface of the earth, breath only prepared air?
Will our lives depend on chemical technology for survival?
What about the water and our food supply?
Do you really believe cigarettes are the only carcinogen in the environment that causes lung cancer?
Who profits from all this fear?
I see job security being created for doctors, hospitals and drug companies.
More dependency on the government, health care politics at work.
Another form of (bailout) as I see it, based in fear.
What do you see everywhere? They are preying on the fears of us all, everyone wants to live.
Who will have the power over life and death?
Don't tell me God, I don't wanna hear it.
And who here really trusts the government, the medical community, the drug companies, or the courts?
Mandatory?
BULL SHIT !!!
You take risks every day, you have choices. If I hear mandatory I know its bull shit.
You would have to apply this mandate world wide and we all know thats not gonna happen.
Believe what you will about this vaccine but never allow the government to mandate your health.
This vaccine is not properly tested, this flu is not showing signs of being the deadly monster they feared, and there are several strains out there, not just one.
Take the shot if you choose, but force it on no one.
And please, stop blaming everything on the Israelis.
by spernagsds on 07 October 2009 - 17:10
Moons...
I agree with a lot of what you have to say to a certain extent. My Air Force friend faces disiplinary measures if he don't take the vaccine... I guess he could refuse it and then face the consequences. In my case it's not fear, I am not afraid of the vaccine nor am I afraid of them telling everyone they have to have it... I don't care for all the wishy washy crap they are playing off as mere "side effects". This is why I am choosing to opt out. They are reporting that the virus itself is safer then the vaccine in healthy individuals. Isn't that the way it is now with all the other strains? People die every day from the seasonal flu... Come on people, are you all falling for the scare tactics? I know I have a choice, regardless. Being prepared for nothing rather than being suprised by something, that has been my motto lately... I agree that people are gulible and fearful... they feel they have to run and get this "life saving vaccine" that the gov. and health care officials are pushing down their throats that will save them and their chldren by preventing the virus... They believe this??? Well, this is one chicky that is not falling for all the bullcrap. What would you do Moons if they DID say it was "mandatory" for all citizens? I will tell you what I would do..... I would meet them at my door with my .45.....
Good Day
Shannan :)
I agree with a lot of what you have to say to a certain extent. My Air Force friend faces disiplinary measures if he don't take the vaccine... I guess he could refuse it and then face the consequences. In my case it's not fear, I am not afraid of the vaccine nor am I afraid of them telling everyone they have to have it... I don't care for all the wishy washy crap they are playing off as mere "side effects". This is why I am choosing to opt out. They are reporting that the virus itself is safer then the vaccine in healthy individuals. Isn't that the way it is now with all the other strains? People die every day from the seasonal flu... Come on people, are you all falling for the scare tactics? I know I have a choice, regardless. Being prepared for nothing rather than being suprised by something, that has been my motto lately... I agree that people are gulible and fearful... they feel they have to run and get this "life saving vaccine" that the gov. and health care officials are pushing down their throats that will save them and their chldren by preventing the virus... They believe this??? Well, this is one chicky that is not falling for all the bullcrap. What would you do Moons if they DID say it was "mandatory" for all citizens? I will tell you what I would do..... I would meet them at my door with my .45.....
Good Day
Shannan :)
by beetree on 07 October 2009 - 17:10
Mandatory shots for the military are nothing new, so if that was a deal breaker for joining the military, one more shot shouldn't be a big deal.
Everyone else makes up their own minds.
So if you believe in this crazy eugenics via vaccination idea, then all the governments trying to get the vaccine to people who want them, well, are first on the list of extermination. Oops, there goes the military, healthcare workers, next pregnant women, followed by kids, next by elderly asthma sufferers. Those puppet masters of the new world order are busy beavers indeed.
Everyone else makes up their own minds.
So if you believe in this crazy eugenics via vaccination idea, then all the governments trying to get the vaccine to people who want them, well, are first on the list of extermination. Oops, there goes the military, healthcare workers, next pregnant women, followed by kids, next by elderly asthma sufferers. Those puppet masters of the new world order are busy beavers indeed.
by Davren on 07 October 2009 - 18:10
I have never had the flu vaccine and probably won't take the H1N1 vaccine, either. However, I am not totally swayed by one side of this argument or the other. I agree with what Beetree; it is not very compelling to believe the government would wipe out the populations mentioned. (hmm...unless PETA is behind the conspiracy).
Could it be that the anti-vaccine faction is actually the ones wanting to eliminate other sectors? Maybe the scare tactic is to prevent individuals from obtaining the vaccine, so more people are ultimately wiped out.
From a very personal standpoint, my parents were both victims of polio just a couple of years prior to the Salk Vaccine. They became paraplegic as a result. I know they recall many friends with worse case scenarios then theirs due to polio. After the vaccine, polio certainly became eradicated for the most part.
Just my thoughts. Like I said, I am not sure that I currently have a die hard stance one way or the other.
Could it be that the anti-vaccine faction is actually the ones wanting to eliminate other sectors? Maybe the scare tactic is to prevent individuals from obtaining the vaccine, so more people are ultimately wiped out.
From a very personal standpoint, my parents were both victims of polio just a couple of years prior to the Salk Vaccine. They became paraplegic as a result. I know they recall many friends with worse case scenarios then theirs due to polio. After the vaccine, polio certainly became eradicated for the most part.
Just my thoughts. Like I said, I am not sure that I currently have a die hard stance one way or the other.
by Vikram on 07 October 2009 - 19:10
by beetree on 07 October 2009 - 21:10
Vikram, I spotted untruths about squalene, like there is none currently in the H1N1 vaccine, in your source. Go to the CDC for facts, folks. FACTS not FACEBOOK
Davren, my father has one foot shorter than the other because of polio, he seems to have faired pretty lucky now, compared to your parents.
Davren, my father has one foot shorter than the other because of polio, he seems to have faired pretty lucky now, compared to your parents.
by yellowrose of Texas on 08 October 2009 - 00:10
MORE PROOF OF CONTAINMENT AND HOW THE GOVEY IS GONNA SHELVE THE PHAMACHUTICAL THIS TIME SO THEY CANNOT BE SUED OVER THE KIDS THAT MAY HAVE REACTIONS ,,READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE...NOT THE FIRST ONE..THESE REPORTS ARE DOCUMENT IN THE ARTICLE AS TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM......:
http://www.infowars.com/autism-explodes-as-childhood-vaccines-increase/
http://www.infowars.com/autism-explodes-as-childhood-vaccines-increase/
by Red Sable on 08 October 2009 - 00:10
I'm on dial up, so it would literally take hours to watch that video, but I did watch the doctor take hers, and why is the nurse covering the needle injection site with her fingers? Hardly looks like she even administered the shot at all.
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