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DDR-DSH

by DDR-DSH on 03 October 2009 - 13:10

 By the way... Some people mentioned monkey cell sources for vaccine (?)... 
You may find this interesting, with regard to the HIV / AIDS pandemic, but the original repository of this virus was the species known as the "green monkey", found in Africa. We are told that it was first contracted by indigenous people, harvesting monkeys as "bush meat". Is it also a coincidence then that the "green monkey" happened to be one of the most common species used in laboratory research? Considering that the world's population (or most of it) has been innoculated against one thing or the other, by world health authorities and various volunteer associations, is it then a surprise that something like this could happen? Think about it.. I'm not saying it was intentional. It could have been purely an accident. 

  I do remember a time before parvovirus. This was almost certainly something accidentally released by some laboratory somewhere in the US, working on a vaccine for another species (probably feline panleukopenia). The year it first appeared was 1978, as I recall. Lots of heartbreak for a lot of people, in the first ten years or so, and it goes on to this day. I lost a really precious puppy to it.. My "Nando" died in my arms while I cried and prayed to God to spare him. I'm sure that many could tell similar stories. 

  After seeing the financial mess this country (USA) has created by letting the Wall Street wizards run amok, I really would barely trust them to take out my garbage, much less plan my health care. 

DDR-DSH

by DDR-DSH on 03 October 2009 - 13:10

 Kalibek.. How old was your husband when this happened? 

by beetree on 03 October 2009 - 14:10

Here is the CDC link for folks who'd like to know some real facts. Vaccination is a choice with risks, and that's just life. No guarantees there.

www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/gbs_qa.htm



by keepthefaith on 03 October 2009 - 17:10

I am not into conspiracy theories, etc and find most of them laughable. I do seem to recall that Preston was very much into conspiracies, false flag operations, etc and so it is not surprising to read that he sees the swine flu and the vaccinations as yet another conspiracy.

However,  I don't plan on taking the swine flu vaccination. My reasoning is quite simple: from what I have read and heard the usual testing that takes place with such new vaccines could not be completed because of the time pressures involved in producing the vaccine in time for the flu season. So there is no way of knowing the side-effects that could result.

It is a question of balancing the risks with the benefits when it comes to vaccinations. I will take the regular flu vaccination.

by hodie on 03 October 2009 - 17:10

General Questions and Answers on 2009 H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Safety

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 03 October 2009 - 23:10

KEEPTHE FAITH:   Do you have a PHD behind your name?

Well Preston does have a PHD behind his name  .

.....so I will stand on that any day of the week.....
so I believe him way before I believe the    ....gov /h1n1    fact internet lies that our government tries to put out into our minds to hide what is going on and every one in US has now discovered   ...Our government cannot even run its own business and you think they have the knowledge to run the Health care or the fda or the pharmachutical research gov=. controlled labs and to tell you the truth....NO WAY    I wouldnt believe any thing the us government prints on a .gov.com      After all the vice president of the United States doesnt even know what it is or how to find it...Millions of other americans have now discovered the conspiracies and well founded...
Any one with half a brain can find the proof and read and put it all together.

YR, here are some more interesting articles and short video clips on swine flu vaccine.

Isn't it interesting how all of a sudden the government claims to now be so highly concerned about helping and protecting its citizens via the flu shots? They never gave a damn about the populace before, sending our young soldiers off to be wounded and die needlessly in illegal, phony undeclared wars in foreign lands like Iraq and Afghanistan where these wars were started by the US on false pretexts.

Heck, even gulf war 1 and the US attack on Iraq was sety up by the US beforehand by selling Iraq all the high tech weapons and bio precursers and then trickery by April Gillespie who told Saddam that if he enforced his borders and attacked Kuwait for cross drilling and stealing his oil (courtesy of sante fe drilling), the US would consider that none of their business (when actually the US hoped Iraq would do this and they would have a false pretext for attacking Iraq to "war profiteer" for large dod contractors).

The rest is history and the US proceeded to violate international law and invade other sovereign countries (the fbi itself stated that there was no credible evidence linking Iraq, afghanistan, saddam or Bin Laden to the 9/11 twin tower attacks and the pentagon attack on 9-11-01, thus saddam was not placed on their 10 most wanted list either). Then the US also proceeded to institute illegal torture against supposed terrorists (at least 40-50% were young adolescents kidnapped by competing warlord tribes and sold for large bounties to the US forces. Torture is illegal under the Geneva Convention and against the military code of conduct.

But so what the US government redefines torture as harsh but legal interrogation and gets an opinion supporting that from its lackey attorney general who is a near moron. These facts and many others make is hard to believe that the top government officials care about anyone, but only themselves and maintaining and expanding their power and wealth, and the popwer and wealth of those super-elites in the military-iondustrial complex that President Eisenhower warned the people about uin his last official speech.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/08/07/swine-flu-health-expert-warning/does-virus-vaccine-increase-risk-of-cancer.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html



MaggieMae

by MaggieMae on 04 October 2009 - 01:10


I am not getting the Swine Flu vaccination.  Also, I never get the "regular" Flu  vaccination.  I have never had the flu (knock on wood).  

MaggieMae

by MaggieMae on 04 October 2009 - 01:10


I don't know anythng about Preston ??   However, I believe that Subblebine is a WACKO !!

Kalibeck

by Kalibeck on 04 October 2009 - 01:10

DDR-DSH, My husband was 74 when that happened, & as I said, we had not yet married. I had rushed him to the hospital, realising how quickly he was declining, & when we got to the ER, they rushed him back to a room, but kept me out to do the 'paperwork'...when they realized we weren't married, they wouldn't let me back in to be with him, & they were trying to convince him to make himself a 'NO CODE', & to eschew treatment. Thank goodness he stayed conscious just long enough to ask for me, & to nod when they asked if I was allowed to make decisions on his behalf, or they would have put him on a morphine infusion that would have knocked down his respiratory drive, so he could die comfortably. As it was, once they found out that he was a FULL CODE...they got to work, & did a fine job. He's in our living room right now, playing with his favorite puppy, 19 month old Lil' Bit, who can't be without him for even an afternoon without moping, (me either, as far as that goes....). That BTW, was the primary reason we married, so that we could make medical decisions for each other without the freakin' hassle....& I might add, my husband gave me the extreme satisfaction of witnessing his firing of the MD that withheld his flu shot from him....stating that the Dr was, (& to his face,LOL!), "As useless as a set of bull tits!"
ROTFLMFAO! jackie harris





 


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