Conservative Christian caught in compromising position. - Page 9

In evolutionary world views there are no ultimate morality standards.

Yes there is and you are silly for saying such a thing.

I could turn it around on creationism but that would also be very silly so I will SMH and roll my eyes, instead.

30 years from now I will make it a point to come back here and laugh at all the dooms day dung I have seen the Christians post here.

I can think of nothing more moronic and unenlightened and ignorant than shtals last statement. at least he didn't pull out the idiotic example of the vinegar and baking soda reaction.

And if we were were to post specific scripture on how to raise children? treat women, slavery, stoning people, incest, murder, rape shtal would pretend not to see it and change the subject. this is why i call you deceitful shtal.

I'm guessing shtal meant to say "absolute", rather than "ultimate" (in which case he would be correct), but I could be mistaken.  There are of course theories of morality which are not absolute, but they generally run into some problems.

Carlin,

It’s the book of Genesis that is the framework to our faith? Well the Bible is the message of God’s endless love for mankind, and it’s our love that our world will knows us by; God’s purpose for us must be understood through the entirety through his word. And the foundation for God’s word is Genesis! Carlin, we must begin to educate the next generation about the truth of creation. So what happens when you take away the foundation? Everyone does that which is right in their own eyes. Today we have a world that has rejected God as a creator and refuses to accept him as their savior. Our world can’t comprehend concepts like the meaning of life; our society feels no responsibility to God because he didn’t make them and the love of God has be redefined to be unconditional acceptance of a person’s sinful nature - rather provision for eternal life and victory over sin; if we going to keep the church, the family and ultimately our society from crumbling we must reinforce the foundation in the beginning God created, the heaven(s) and the earth. No need to tell you this Carlin but the book of Genesis is foundational that is the framework and that is what sets everything up, I mean think about it why are we different from animals? Genesis has the answer, we are different because we are made in the image of God, and we are separate - we higher than the animals…According to the evolution world view, we are no different from the animals; we are just more fully evolved...also what about marriage? If Genesis1 is just metaphor then why couldn’t Genesis2, where the Bible says God made man, that the man should leave his father and mother and should cleave to his wife and the two will be one flesh, marriage been between man and woman; so if we start put “questions marks” over Genesis1, then we have to go well maybe Genesis2 is just metaphor and we loose the foundation for marriage. And I think that is happening today which I think stems from the whole idea of foundation for sin itself, I mean think about it if Genesis isn’t true then what foundation do we have for sin bringing death into the world, there is no original sin? None at all, where is it come from if Genesis isn’t true? Why do bad things happen? Why do bad things happen to good people? Well, it’s because of the curse, no need to exaplain to you Carlin it’s because Adam and Even decided to break God’s rules and they brought sin into the world and it explains, oh this why bad happening. And also think about why Jesus needed to die? I mean if there was no original sin, if there was no original Adam then why is Jesus referred to as the last Adam if their wasn’t first Adam and basically what I am saying this is important, (extremely important), it’s foundational. And my summary of this when bad things happen people need to stop pointing finger at God and start pointing your finger at sin, Genesis is the book that explains that to us and does it very thoroughly.

Shtal.        

Shtal genesis is a simple primitive myth written by simple primitive people for even simpler primitive illiterate uneducated bronze age goat herders.

your great designer was lonely so he made angels to worship him, his best 30% of them hated him so he kicked their ass out of heaven. then he made people to worship him but the very first two he made ignored him so he made the curse for all future humans to suffer and when they populated they hated him do he killed them all cept for a few he put on a boat and when they populated they hated him to so he made himself into himself to sacrifice himself to himself because everyone was not worshipping him enough.

what a fukin idiot loser is this biblegod.


and know we don't need a dam thing from stupid bible to have morals.

look at you always posting new techno-gadgets. jesus said YOU MUST NOT OWN ANY POSSESSIONS.


Got any better stories than genesis.

vk4, everytime when I see crap posts from you? You always remind me same, same and same scriptures.

 

12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?
13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
(Matthew Chapter 15:12-14)

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. (John Chapter 8:44)

38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
(Matthew Chapter 13:38-40)

Tares – are people and the good seed are also people, one category of people came to this world from God, and other category of people came to this world from devil. Tares cannot become wheat and wheat cannot become tares. World – field, it could become tares or wheat - dependency from whom under it was influence, whose roots it was drop too. (Which one)
And from the influence of this roots in the soil, partially soil transform into different tares, and diverse soil transform into wheat. In other words – through roots comes attraction to one and to others, but this attractions are different.

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. (John Chapter 6:44-45)

The word ALL does not mean that absolutely all people in this world will be instructed by God, but it means that those - that roots of the wheat have reached and so they became sons of wheat.

13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.
(Isaiah Chapter 54:13)

All sons but not all people.

Hey i made good and never called you names. You keep thinking the same as you say cos yr mind is in a small box. that box is called delusion. you have real evolution brain that won't accept the delusion so you make the box smaller and the walls thicker to try stopping yr real evolution brain working. the box is your defence to defend what is indefensible the delusion you are suffering. the world you see is the only reality there is and it takes you so much energy to resist the only one true world there is. you have built the box to defend your delusion. its not yr fault you good nature has been taken advantage of by those that seek power control and money.

there are people that can help you face reality and help you cope and be the real you. you owe it to yrself cos there is only one life.

no god would want to see you like this.


take care bro.

Look who's talking!  Can't get the bag off his own head. What a hoot! Got my chuckle of the morning already, and I only just had one sip...  .

 Bee Iove that post ^ ^  ain't it the truth ;) 

btw I would have thought aussi guys would've been more elegant and refined cowboy types ,,Vk busted my bubble lol,,,

,,,Shtal you are a bit long winded for me, but I love seeing you use your own words to communicate rather than copy and paste,,, :) :) :)