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by Hundmutter on 06 February 2015 - 23:02
RS I honestly would not jump right in and call that a "miracle",
its apparently very unusual, certainly, but I bet there is a logical
and non-supernatural explanation for it which will eventually
become known.

by GSD Admin on 07 February 2015 - 00:02
What about the millions who pray and die horrible deaths even though they are very religious?

by gouda on 07 February 2015 - 01:02
REV.14:13
Aman is truly blessed if his final reward is one of blessing
despite the temporary persecutions of this life.
This verse brings out the fact that those who die in
the Lord are blessed.
This would suprise many,and in fact it is only by
the eye of faith that we can apprehend it.
Whoever of the sons of this earth thought that
someoneas blessed when he died.
Death is wiewed as the opposite of blessing.
It is tye final and irreversible calamity,it the end of
everything.
But this is only the view of human eyes before one has
come to the cross for forgiveness,life and inlightment.
Death for the believer is the gateway to being forever wit Christ.
THIS IS JOY AND LIFE,NOT SADNESS
gouda

by GSD Admin on 07 February 2015 - 08:02
So, dying like the native Americans, witches and anybody who opposes your religion is joyous and their loved ones shouldn't feel sadness because the death was in the name of your God?
Pretty twisted and down right Fd up view.
In the above view dying with the cross is living with Christ forever, so what happens to those who were killed by those carrying the cross? Do they forever now burn in hell with the devil? Man I wouldn't want that I my shoulders, no sir. Not only can a Christian kill in the name of God but they can then die and be forever with Christ, how special and loving.

by gouda on 07 February 2015 - 13:02
Death for me is going to be a blessing for me.
Even though those lucky muslims recieve 72 virgins when they kill a Christian.
yes its in their word.
Your friend as always
John

by GSD Admin on 07 February 2015 - 15:02
And you believe it? 72 virgins where, in a leper colony? Of course they are told that for the same type of reasons the bible tells you certain things. Your bible like theirs implores you to kill, whether you admit it or not. Your bible also teaches that Christ committed genocide on disbelievers.

by mrdarcy on 07 February 2015 - 17:02
Lmao at the 72 virgins, lol,lol.

by gouda on 07 February 2015 - 20:02
by vk4gsd on 07 February 2015 - 22:02
here let me help, are we just talking NT or can i fill page after paage of OT violence?
the book of rev is pretty crazy violent for starters.
how much of the OT can we ignore?
eg Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one dot of the Law to become void.
many others.
anyhoo, for starters people and children walking around with graven images and scultutres of a man nailed to a cross is pretty graphic and promotes violence in itself, also from NT;
jesus condones OT violence;
St Paul gave favourable support to the idea that the genocides in the old testament were directed by God, in 1 Cor 10 9-11:
“9 We should not test Christ, as some of them did—and were killed by snakes. 10 And do not grumble, as some of them did—and were killed by the destroying angel. 11 These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the culmination of the ages has come.”
Luke 12:49-53New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Christ Divides Men
49 “I a]">[a]have come to cast fire upon the earth; and b]">[b]how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to c]">[c]undergo, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished! 51 Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; 52 for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”
and
Matthew 10:34King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
and;
He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
luke 22:36, NIV
and so on...

by GSD Admin on 07 February 2015 - 23:02
I am not going to copy and paste all the violence but I will provide a link. Up to you to read it and understand it or make excuses for it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_violence
Lets face it the story of Noah is full of violence and genocide. Burning in hell is very violent and the act of burning is very very very painful.
I still notice no acceptance from you on the fact that Christians slaughtered millions of native Americans and the fact that Christians were very involved in the slave trade. It saddens me that you don't have the balls to admit these facts happened and innocents suffered in the name of your God.
Grow some balls and maybe we can talk further until then you are a jellyfish.
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