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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 09 December 2013 - 03:12

The Pagan festival (Samane) pre-dates the Christian Christmas.
Its a mid-Winter celebration.  Even most Christians in the world
accept that the dates don't correlate with the time of year of Jesus'
supposed birth, in the Bible;   the dates of 24/25th December
were  'annexed' at some point in (real) history.  [Middle Ages, I think,
but I haven't checked that out so can't swear to my recollection of it.]

Carlin, thanks for the Snopes check;  I thought there sounded something
fishy about that supposed 'quote'.

gouda

by gouda on 09 December 2013 - 10:12

Good morning Travels

In the Peteborough Ontario, the tellers are forbidden to say Merry Christmas at the Walmart stores.
They are only allowed to wish some one a happy holiday. That was last year,dont know about this year,
haven't been there for awhile.
Yes many countrys Christians have to worship in secret.Cant give you the full
Story because I will get banned.
George town College two years ago,all the Christian symbols were covered up to not to offend,who?
not allowed to say.

gouda

gouda

by gouda on 09 December 2013 - 11:12


Christian community,

U.S. government is wrong to say the Christian victims of the ---------------- conflicts are simply “casualties.”

“We should never allow the Christians to be casualties of war. Why is the U. S. allowing the Christian communities to suffer and become casualties of war?” “They would never say people killed in violence in Arizona or in New York are casualties of war, so why do they say Christians are simply casualties of war?”

gouda


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 09 December 2013 - 12:12

Gouda,
the demon remains, your going deeper down the path with each new post.
I think someday I will read your name in some tragic news story from a somewhat less than reputable news source.

I would suggest you stay out of Walmarts.

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 09 December 2013 - 13:12

Exactly hexe !,,And that is exactly what we have chosen to do,,The only thing I would add is that IMO the public school system certainly does indoctrinate the children with the religion of secular society..Secular religion might be my own made up word, but it is for lack of another way of saying societies standards and ideas,,Public school is far from being a benign academic institution..Unfortunately children learn way more than ABC and 123's....... 

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 09 December 2013 - 13:12

Obviously children are not learning as well as they should in our schools or we would be in the lead instead of lacking world wide.
If you look closely you'll see children are not learning standards and ideas at school, they are getting it from what's in their hands.

 

Carlin

by Carlin on 09 December 2013 - 13:12

Ruger - yes.  Secular humanism is a comprehensive worldview which replaced the proceeding theistic one.  It is definitely not innocuous in that its underlying presuppositions are far from neutral in their practical implications.  In the United States, we value the separation of church and state.  Once upon time, the prevailing philosophy in the US was theism, or at least deism.  Over time, this has changed, and we inhabit a place with an enormous diversity of belief systems.  I think that in order to protect the sanctity of an individual's right to choose their faith, we are obliged to refrain from forwarding any one in particular, especially within our schools.  As a Christian, I certainly would not wish my child to be pressured or influenced by a doctrine counter to my own.  So it would seem that the diversity has required a certain change in MO.  I can understand that need, while, like you, I recognize that the truth of the landscape within education is currently severely biased along a particular vector.  To the casual eye, it may seem merely as the absence of religious orientation, until the peeling back of the onion reveals the way in which the comprehensive approach to curriculum functions to form a very particular and competing ideology.  I haven't given it much thought, but I am interested in what a truly neutral approach would look like.

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 09 December 2013 - 13:12

Moons,,Yeah that too, but they learn plenty in the classroom too and the bus ride home would make a grown man blush!!.,,What Smile,,

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 09 December 2013 - 13:12

Carlin..Nicely said,,

Carlin

by Carlin on 09 December 2013 - 13:12

Obviously children are not learning as well as they should in our schools or we would be in the lead instead of lacking world wide.
If you look closely you'll see children are not learning standards and ideas at school, they are getting it from what's in their hands.


Bureaucracy at its best.
 





 


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