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by Centurian on 30 May 2017 - 19:05


^^^^^ "I told you about the "mandatory" temperament test, now finally called " ZAP1 ", last year, as I already guessed this test now becomes a rule for every dog born after June 2017... "

GEE .... I woner why "mandatory" temperament testing has come to the forefront..... Sch in and of itself was designed to be a temperament test of the GS , Wasn't it ?

Since the test is mandatory .. relating to another recent thread about breeding... now what do you all think is the most important factor in breeding ? Perhaps Temperament? And maybe perhaps what I wrote , that the GS mentality has changerd significantly over the years .. maybe , just maybe , that is a truthful statement more than the average, even proferssional , person realizes ?

Thank you for sharing the post Susie.


Cutaway

by Cutaway on 30 May 2017 - 20:05

Susie, just where is the pressure coming from ? Not denying influence of US and maybe other markets, but someone within the structure has to be promoting these changes. --Hundmutter

From my understanding this is Heinrich Meßler push, this was the first year he had ever attended an IPO (or SchH) trial and has stated repeatedly that "...the sport GSD has no place in the future of the GSD breed"


by vk4gsd on 30 May 2017 - 21:05

I thought they might increase participation world wide by raising the standards and making more difficult, lengthy, rigorous and robust testing requiring more handler time and skill commitment and more personal  financial input.

Be darned, they made everything easier instead.

Why I'm not a dog politician.


by joanro on 30 May 2017 - 21:05

Every time the sv tinkers with breeding requirements, it is to make things easier. First schH to watered down IPO...and watered down BH....now IPO is being watered down. It won't make the breed better, just easier for lesser dogs to pass.

by momma on 30 May 2017 - 22:05

Bingo!! Lesser dogs are gonna pass and that is what the future of breed is...they all sat back and criticized the show dogs but now the working dogs are looking for free pass. They may not even show or kore but they now can dominate the breed.

ziegenfarm

by ziegenfarm on 31 May 2017 - 09:05

i have not been on here for ages, but this piqued my interest. i would like to know more about these tests & if they are true tests or something that will be trained to pass. i hate the train to pass thinking. true tests would be beneficial to breeding programs & to the breed in general. pjp

by Koach on 31 May 2017 - 10:05

Ziegenfarm, I cannot find the English version of the mentioned test however here is the French version. It's pretty visual so for you words are probably not necessary. In my opinion it can be trained and/or conditioned for and does not meet the standards of the Swedish Breed Tests.

JMHO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFV4Nw1sqoQ&feature=share

 

 


paj1212

by paj1212 on 31 May 2017 - 17:05

Above all else I would like to see genetic testing done...what good is any title, breed survey if simple testing that is available worldwide isn't even considered?

by JudyK on 31 May 2017 - 19:05

How is it possible for people in this country to obtain the mandatory temperament test since it is my understanding that it must be run when the dog is between 9-13 months of age. It's geographically a huge challenge unless there is something I'm missing. And what are the consequences for breed worthiness if the pup did not obtain the required temperament test in that 6 month time frame? I assume that the test must be administered by an SV judge.

Judy

susie

by susie on 31 May 2017 - 20:05

SV judge, SV foreign judge? Who knows? Who even cares outside of Germany?

Everybody who was able to title a dog according to SV rules by himself surely will be able to "temperament test/ZAP1 test" a dog according to SV rules ( no training necessary, just the test ).

The consequences in case "the pup did not obtain the required temperament test in that 6 month time frame"? Not breed worthy in my country ( according to the official statements right now, and it will happen ).
but there will be exceptions to the rule for dogs born outside of Germany like always ( SV is talking about "basic", "premium", advanced" already). Loopholes ( and time ) enough...





 


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