USCA sieger show handlers - Page 2

Well, Dog 1, I am coming as a spectator and with an open agenda. I look forward to watching the classes and taking my own videoes. I also hope that USCA has an official videotographer. I may even be taking pictures in the bar(cell phones allow that now). I will also be very interested in the statistics of the top placing dogs vs the handlers (German or American) and I think that the results of the show should also include handled by. Ithink these things because I honestly think that the Sieger Shows have become the "political cesspool" of the GSD industry. Many people paying travel, lodging, entries, handling etc only to find that they didn't have a chance anyway due to "politics" or maybe because they didn't pay some unreasonable handling fee to an European handler that knew the judge. This needs to end but it will not until the majority cease to enter. When the organizations realize that they will not make money under these circumstances, then and only then, will they concentrate on offering a "fair" venue. JMOPO

Well Elizabeth I hope to see you there and I hope you get all the information you need to convince yourself the siegers shows are the "Political Cesspool" of the German Shepherd breed today. I guess you elected not to do the research from the NASS and see for yourself what you claim politics accomplish. Yes a different winner/different owner in each class. Where's the political influence if you can't win more than one class? The political players you claim exist were nowhere in sight. The comments I make are based on my experience and I'll be there with dogs entered. I'm not sure how you can "honestly think" anything since you are not a participant. Zero knowledge, zero experience, every where a Zero. It sounds like you don't even have a dog. How can anyone with so little experience have so much knowledge about our breed? Yet you have an opinion on everything and it's all negative and all a bunch of crap. If you really think you need to voice opinions, why not get involved? Let's show a dog! You can speak from experience then. I've got a few, I'll lend you one. Just let me know what show you want to go to. I'll send you a dog. You use all your talent to get it ready, I'll help you. Show it and see how you do? Then you can bitch from experience.

elizabeth.......just look for the handler jochen janz from germany. he will be at the show and i'm sure he brings some dogs over that he sold. i know, he will be placed in every single class, he handles in(top 3). that's political, he knows the judges well and talk's open about it. dog1.........if you know all the handling skill's why dont you give a seminar and teach everybody ?

Hey everyone. I can vouch that it's not easy getting a dog ready for show. Quoted: "As far as handling goes. The important thing is to have a dog presented correctly. This involves lots of things. What are the dogs best attributes? What are the short comings? Is the dog in condition? do I need to conserve energy or let it blow some off and settle down? Where should the double handler be throughout the class? Is the initial plan working or did the dog change after practice. What about spacing? Should I stay to the inside, leave a space, put my dog on the outside? How should I stack the dog to show it best. Do I want to stretch the dog or stack him a little short? Oops, he had to poop and the class was rearranged... where do I go back in line? I won't discuss the different skill levels and the methods used in the classes to better position a dog so it will not be passed or position it so it's in a position to pass. If you feel you are a good handler or your friend is a good handler, then by all means handle the dog with whatever combination you think is best. For those that have spent a fair amount of money preparing for the show, traveling to the show, getting a good dog in the show and are hoping for a good place. Maybe there is a benefit or something to learn from another handler. I think it strikes some nerves when suggestions are made that it's customary practice for judges to be paid to place a dog. It undermines the system and is very disrespectful to those judges that give a lot to the sport and the dogs. Take some time to learn what it takes to be a judge, deal with all the variables, and you may have a different perspective on the overall program." This past year has been an incredible learning experience handling dogs. All that Dog1 stated above is all true and then some. Each dog is a little different and I've learned that a conference with the owner/trainer before the class to get some answers to several questions raised above by Dog1 works great. The only way to start getting yourself noticed is to jump in "sink or swim" is how I have felt this last year. I love the thrill of being behind a strong dog that can move and show well. My best experience thus far has been with "Boy" a dog owned by Kerry. I'll be handling in the USA Sieger Show this weekend, my first big show and I'm looking forward to doing a good job. I'm not German (heck I'm not even American but proud to be a Naturalized American-born in Mexico) I hope not being so will not be held against me, afterall I hope that the dog I'm handling is the one that the judge will be looking at mostly. I know that ring presentation by the hanlder is crucial but hopefully more so the dog, the ring training, the movement, and the condition the dog is presented in should be the ultimate deciding factors. I'd be the first to encourage anyone having aspirations of handling-go for it! We need more local handlers It's fun but it's not as easy as it looks. Each time I handle I learn from each dog and more importanly what the other handlers and learn from them. It's a lot nicer when you are handed the leash to a super trained dog and knows exactly what to do in the ring and the double handler knows exactly where to be at the right time each turn as opposed to a green dog first time in the ring. All in all, it's fun and helps to keep one in shape.

jochen jantz will be there for he handles alex v farbenspiel among others. when he sells a dog u agree to let him handle it for he is super good. it is like anything else, showing is political anyplace and it does take a top handler...trainer to place your dog, BUT, the dog must be in top condition for most of the top handlers to touch it. right?