Be honest : Is this your dog? - Page 14

If everyone bred oversize GSD then an oversize GSD becomes the new average then people like mithuna will need an extra double king oversize GSD to stand out, convergent my ass, its a divergent problem.

In wider GSD world this is s precisely what's happening the official medium breed is becoming a large breed. Judges are basically ignoring the size creep in show dogs, breeders are trending to it in this the GSD gets lost.

 

Look what has become of the Rotts and DDR dogs, monstrous heads and limited working ability all packaged as old school real dogs by typically breeders with the flashiest easiest to find websites that don't work their dogs.

 

Why not just buy a Shiloh or King shepherd be done with it.

 

Funny more in the working crowd are crossing with mals to reduce size.

And along with huge 'bucket heads' comes short legs, in both rotts and gsd...there must be a gene that shortens the legs when the head is too big.

lol,lol,lol.

"Ad hominem", lol. Wonder where that comes from.... ;)

Where? Lol. Guess.

Mithuna, you can like whatever you want--you just can't argue it into being correct. You won't like my dogs, because they aren't your preferred type. Pull up the pedigrees on here for Wynthea's Hexe, and Rykkah vom Haus Hutfeld. Hexe is the bitch I lost in 2010, at the age of 14 1/2; Rykkah is the female I presently have. Optimum weight for both was/is 65-68#. Haven't measured Rykkah, but she's no more than an 1/8th of an inch different than Hexe, who was 22.5 inches [+/- a half inch--I don't have an actual wicket, thus the possible deviation either way].

The male I presently have is a rescue of unknown breeding and he weighed in at an obese 117# when I took him in as a 7 yr old. I keep him between 96-100#, and once he was down in that weight range his agility increased ten-fold, though he still can't keep up with the bitch.  This picture was taken the day I brought him home. He stands around 24 inches, and is terribly down on his pasterns. His paws are the size of my fist...and he's simply too big for his own good. Lucky for him that he still has sound hips, but at 12 he's starting to feel the effects of arthritic bridging in his spine, and that's affecting his mobility in the hindquarters.  

Oh, and this is my first GSD, born in 1981, an American lines bitch from Wynn Strickland, taken when she was 7 years of age. Fit at 70# and 24" at the shoulder.

Happy now?

Hexe's photo of her male shows us a good example of
what we've talked about. Her male, at 7, doesn't have
a huge sagging belly that would declare him obviously
too fat to even a casual observer. (TY Hexe). He was
obese 'all over'. Just as some humans carry excess
weight in different body patterns - I should know, I am
far too heavy but 'get away with it' to some extent because
I am taller than the average woman. Unfortunately that
does not fool my Arthritis or the medics.

That a lousy stack on Jessie tsk, tsk. Rear legs pointing every which way.

 

I was expecting better form......

Yeah, I know, vk...but it was the only pic I could grab from this device. She really wasn't wanting to be standing there, to her snow was for running through and rolling in.

I used to look up to you, I had no idea you were a sloppy stacker. I don't believe in anything anymore, i give up on life. I think I will vote for Trump, wait wrong country... but still.