by sunshine on 07 November 2004 - 05:11
Vikram, I think my dogs would die for some lamb or goat! Sunny
by Laris on 07 November 2004 - 10:11
MY CHOSEN DIET I have been giving my 2 GSD bitches natural diet (raw lamb bones, raw beef, raw eggs) for the last 2 years, and my puppies from one of the bitches were given the similar diet (they get chicken carcass and chicken wings because lamb necks are too hard for them) as soon as they started on solid food, never on commercial dry food. IMHO, you need not worry about too much protein in the food, simply cut back the protein if you think there are too much of it. Same rationale as human: fresh food without going through the process is healthier. RECIPE The 2 bitches weigh about 30 kg each (yes, I think they are a little overweight). They each get about (daily) : 250g of lamb neck bone (they are soft enough for your dog to chew, or if you could afford it, the soft ribs( 250g of beef "trimming" ("trimmings = meat with lots of tendon that have been trimmed off by the butcher, you may use lamb, chicken, or other meat) 1 raw egg Pulped fruit and vegetable, and a little garlic, tumeric/ginger (about 100g per day mixed with the minced beef "trimming") Occasional beef knuckle for gnawing pleasure Supplement with vitamin E (400 IU per day) which acts as antioxidant to prevent the fat from turning rancid in their body. It is much cheaper if you buy bulk (1,000 capsules packaging) RESULT They are healthy, coat is good, probably have strong immunity too (I do not worry about my dogs drinking from my mud pond, since most of the time they dragged the bones around in the garden and the bones are covered in soil and mud when they are chewing on it) One bitch is prone to fungal infection, scratches all the time, but I do not think it is diet related, she has been scratching even before she started the BARF diet. I think it is something to do with her immunity deficiency towards fungal, the same as us human that some of us are more prone to fungal infection whereas others are not. WATCH OUT DO NOT COOK THE BONE, it gets brittle and the splinters will kill your dogs!!! A friends dog died of it. If you dogs have been gulping down its dry food in the past, you may want to mince the chicken bones (or other bones) initially to stop them from gulping the bones down, especially when the raw meat/bone is much tastier than the commercial dry food (guess how I found out) They will learn to chew their food after a while. Give probiotic (or yogurt) initially. Your dogs may have loose stools initially, but not to worry, the stools will firm up as it takes sometime (2 weeks) for their digestive system to cope with the new diet. Flies, with the blood and bones, I notice that they are more flies in the garden It takes a little more effort to prepare the food, I shop every 2 weeks and prepare the 2 weeks supply of food all at once and store them in the freezer. One dog will chew the frozen food straight from the fridge (it must feels like ice-cream to them, especially on a hot day), the other likes it at room temperature. OTHER INFO Check out rawfedgsd group at Yahoos website
by Big B on 07 November 2004 - 21:11
Mr.Vikram,I never suggested that feeding Chicken is not good,I only said that I donot feed my dogs Chicken bones except neck.Chicken meat with skin is very good for dogs and helps to gain weight.