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by kitkat3478 on 17 September 2015 - 06:09
Probably more sickening is the type homes/people these pups will end up with.
I think more important than knowing the breed, is knowing your dogs, especially if you going to breed them.
You can read every book ever written on the German Shepherd 'breed', and still know basicly nothing about the dogs in your own kennel. The famous name that you rely on to sell your dogs IS
NOT the dog in your kennel.
As I said in an earlier post, you must love this breed if you want to breed them. Far too many breeders, or Greeders as I refer to them, are in it for the money.
How in the world can anyone give a true/fair 'expectation' of what that pup will offer if they themselves do not know the dogs involved, other than, well, the pedigree says this, and the person I bought from says that...after all, the owner/seller of my import said the pups they got from them were this....oh, that sounds good, let me import this puppy machine, get a litter or two out of her and then......find her a good retirement home....you know, she deserves a family after I am done puppy pimping her. (No need to keep the sire around either, got to keep space for another puppy machine....than, on to the next). SICKENING
If these dogs producing these great expectations, why the need to keep replacing?
I think more important than knowing the breed, is knowing your dogs, especially if you going to breed them.
You can read every book ever written on the German Shepherd 'breed', and still know basicly nothing about the dogs in your own kennel. The famous name that you rely on to sell your dogs IS
NOT the dog in your kennel.
As I said in an earlier post, you must love this breed if you want to breed them. Far too many breeders, or Greeders as I refer to them, are in it for the money.
How in the world can anyone give a true/fair 'expectation' of what that pup will offer if they themselves do not know the dogs involved, other than, well, the pedigree says this, and the person I bought from says that...after all, the owner/seller of my import said the pups they got from them were this....oh, that sounds good, let me import this puppy machine, get a litter or two out of her and then......find her a good retirement home....you know, she deserves a family after I am done puppy pimping her. (No need to keep the sire around either, got to keep space for another puppy machine....than, on to the next). SICKENING
If these dogs producing these great expectations, why the need to keep replacing?
by Gustav on 17 September 2015 - 11:09
I think the ethics and the knowledge of the breeder are the keys to good breeders and not size of the breeder. The ethics is needed to make the hard decisions to base decisions on substance and not likes, to be honest with oneself about shortcomings in ones stock and either correct or eliminate in breeding decisions. The knowledge comes from time that allows one to know their stock and maintain the strengths while eliminating the weaknesses as they are or as they arise. There are many large puppy mills that don't possess these ingredients, but there are also large commercial kennels that have contributed far more good than bad. I have seen many, many good dogs from places like Larry Filo's kennel or Joe Kuhns kennel, or Eurosport or Jinopo, or Triple Crown, etc. but the people breeding these dogs have forgotten more than I know about their stock and the breed in general....so they being large should not be the" reason" to assess them negatively. Jmo
by joanro on 17 September 2015 - 13:09
Excellent post, Gustav.
by kitkat3478 on 17 September 2015 - 19:09
I also agree 100%
Those are not the kind of breeders I was referring to. THOSE kennels know their dogs. They not only train them, most are using their own dogs for their breeding programs and build on that.
It is only when you know your own dog that you can begin to build from anothers.
There are a great deal of bigger kennels that have contributed greatly to the breed.
Those are not the kind of breeders I was referring to. THOSE kennels know their dogs. They not only train them, most are using their own dogs for their breeding programs and build on that.
It is only when you know your own dog that you can begin to build from anothers.
There are a great deal of bigger kennels that have contributed greatly to the breed.
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