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by raymond on 20 August 2010 - 13:08
by Slamdunc on 22 August 2010 - 03:08
by Scarlet Akai on 22 August 2010 - 08:08
Thank you for your information and advice :) That definitely takes a bit of pressure off of the puppy selecting process.
But now I'm afraid that if i'm not looking for personality/drive traits in each puppy I will be more likely to fall victim to the first one in the litter to start working their puppy wiles on me :P And heaven help me if s/he just so happens to have my one of favorite coat colors/patterns ( BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!)
by Steve Schuler on 22 August 2010 - 17:08
Okay, I'll bite....
Raymond said:
"I especially was amused by Jims tale of an upolstry eating dog looking for pot! I can just hear the laughter in the heart of the handler while the dog is chewing away the arm rests looking for drugs! Oh nothing there then chews all the tires off the rims! Oh I love them dogs so!"
To which Jim responded:
"Hope I was clear, no dope no alert no damage. Dope = alert = damage. It really is simple. Don't have dope in your car and don't have friends with dope in your car and you won't have any problems."
To which I add:
Dope = Passive Alert (or interupted aggressive alert prior to massive damage) = No Damage (or minimal)= Less Emotionally Gratifying Bust(?)
Now, you and I both know that Ideally LEO's do not administer punishment for criminal behaviour, right? That is the domain and responsibility of another branch of the Criminal Justice System. Sounds to me like you might be overstepping what, ideally, your role should be.
It's easy to imagine too many likely scenarios where someone who is entirely innocent of any crime has their property needlessly damaged or destroyed in the name of law enforcement. Case in point: Several years ago while cleaning up the interior of my pick-up I found a joint that somebody, who I am not sure, had "lost". Needless to say I was not happy about finding it. I would have been much less happy if a Dope Dog had discovered it, and even less happy if the dog had chewed up my upholstery in the process. If the same happened to you, I doubt if you would consider it unavoidable collateral damage in the war on drugs.
Understand that I am not without empathy to the stresses and strains that LEO's must endure in the course of their work and I hope that you don't take this small criticism for more than it is.
SteveO
by raymond on 22 August 2010 - 19:08
by Diane Jessup on 22 August 2010 - 20:08
Thank you for your information and advice :) That definitely takes a bit of pressure off of the puppy selecting process.
But now I'm afraid that if i'm not looking for personality/drive traits in each puppy I will be more likely to fall victim to the first one in the litter to start working their puppy wiles on me :P And heaven help me if s/he just so happens to have my one of favorite coat colors/patterns ( BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!)
Well, there are worse things to do! In my last litter, it happened again! There was one BIG pup that I tended to ignore because of his size. And, there was one pup that, at 3 weeks, picked me! He would leave the litter box and his siblings and come to my bedroom door and scratch at it till Ilet him in bed. This pup and I developed a super strong bond... EVERYBODY wanted the BIG pup, and never looked at my little guy. Well, at 12 months of age, the BIG pup is little and lithe, and the little pup lookslike a Kangal dog and its all I can do to hang on to him, and the pup I gave to a friend is an ace working prospect and is in a pet home (another one of those "I will work him" deals) where he is worshipped and my pup is wonderful too, so all turned out well, but wow, you just can't tell - so in a well bred litter why not just pick the one that your gut picks? : )
by Slamdunc on 22 August 2010 - 21:08
Any K9 handler can run any of my cars at any time. I can assure you my vehicles do not contain any drugs and have never contained drugs. So, I am not worried about any "unavoidable collateral damage" occurring to any of my vehicles. I am glad that you found that joint that "someone" lost in your car.
Funny, I find dope in cars all the time that "someone" left in there. Of course it rarely belongs to the occupants of the vehicle. I also find dope in peoples pockets and suddenly I hear "These aren't my jeans!"
I'm trying to imagine some of those scenarios where a completely innocent person has their vehicle needlessly damaged in the name of Law Enforcement.
Thanks for your input. Here's my advice to you, go back to the certain "someone" that lost the joint in your car and lecture them and tell them not to bring dope when they are riding in your car. I'm pretty sure you already figured out who "lost" it.
Jim
by RatPackKing on 22 August 2010 - 21:08
Just make a phone call or two and find out who is this steve fellow?.......report back to us!..............LOL!!!
Sorry, could not resist
Carry on,
RPK
by Slamdunc on 22 August 2010 - 21:08
Nah, I'm not that interested.
by Steve Schuler on 22 August 2010 - 22:08
Jim,
What I conveyed was a "True Fact Story", the joint I discovered was not mine. I've no particular motivation to contrive this situation, but of course you've no reason to believe that it wasn't fabricated. At any rate, I don't drink alcohol or use other drugs, although I have done my share (and more) of "experimenting" in my younger days, which might qualify me as being something less than innocent in some people's minds. Yes, I have a pretty good idea of the source of that lonely reefer, but ultimately just shined it on. I was glad that I found it before your dog chomped my upholstery into shreds, not that chomped upholstery would have been the most daunting problem I would have been facing in that instance.
Anyhow, I'm telling you the truth, believe it or not, and next time your dog proceeds to shred somebodies car just give Ole SteveO's "True Fact Story" a thought and that it just might be possible that Justice might be better served if you minimize the damage you allow your dog to do.
Peace
SteveO
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