Pp dog in training - Page 6

I also believe you can tell alot from a dogs eyes.his eyes a fixed calculated no panic shown. Ready for that comand. Imo if the frame of mind I correct and the training and targeting is done properly you should never need to let the dog go. One good shot will brake a face a rib.. I hate to see this scramble on the ground. The damage should be do before the aggresser hits the ground that is why we target. The most damage with the least conflict. Ashttps://www.dropbox.com/s/3rdx4m1wtby9aeh/IMG-20200817-WA0006.jpg?dl=0

I get it Joan re Body…I mentioned the old photo bc I thought it was an impressive display of drive and physicality from another fine GSD.

bladeedge - eyes/focus...sure. but how do you know whether or not dog will panic unless you let the muzzled dog go into the threat? A decoy with a basic level of agility and break fall skills can handle a few high speed muzzle punches to the torso. I have. Fun. Street fights sometimes go to ground; dog should be familiar with basic grappling. lol dog-jitsu

If you know your dog you should know his ballance nerve aggression. I would never let my dog fight someone with a muzzle on. I have demonstrated many time with people iv trained with when a dog is muzzzed and fighting on the ground I have being well able to overcome the dog buy grabbing the muzzle and taken control the head. When people do muzzle training the muzzle is designed not to come off so the dog is basically defensiveless. If my dog is muzzzed when the dog hits the first time it up to me to intervene with the aggresser the dog a has done the job time for me to help him.. Jitsu with your hand tied is the same a dog fighting with a muzzle main defence weapon disabled. I Marshall arts you are taught to target hit fast and quickly never go to the ground unless no other choice.

Gentlemen, I will say it again, all the talk we do in here is hope and conjecture about our dogs biting a real person under real circumstances, without any equipment present.
Until we actually see the dog engage a human under the conditions mentioned above, it is just hypotheticals.
Blade my friend, most fights that involve humans end up on the ground, regardless of what anyone claims their fighting style is, hence why in Chinese energy boxing, there is a concept being taught called "dog fighting", or ground fighting.

Hired Your wrong about all fights going to the ground it. All depends on what you know 😉. But not to get into that I was just making a point About dog bite I disagree you should know weather the dog should bite by the way he shows himself. If the dog state of mind is correct he will bite.

Ok Blade...

bladeedge
"If the dog state of mind is correct he will bite."

surely. but you'll be surprised to know how many dogs (particularly ones in sport) could show great courage in familiar, many times repeated environment and having handler at back, will fall apart in not standard situation and without handler support behind them.

Valk Yes I am of course aware of that. But that is different than what I'm talking about I would have thought you would have recognised that. It more than likely and neve problem. I bet its showed its ugly head in many training sessions. It would normally do this when the pup is young and not familiar with decoys. Lack of honesty between helper handler and dog is what causes the situation you are taking about.

not lack of honesty, rather lack of quality,nerves, courage etc will cause that

Yes Duke you are correct with what you wrote . But the problem I was addressing is handlers and decoys will not admit that problem. Some will cover it up work around it and find was to make the dog look good. And then wonder why the dog fails in events.