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by Red Sable on 23 March 2012 - 19:03

She was a big girl, with all the luxuries of life. Many many many have it much much worse.
I sure don't expect my family to baby sit me, and I'm very close to the same age.
You sure can not blame it on her family and friends. Geez.

by yellowrose of Texas on 23 March 2012 - 20:03

You can lead a Horse to Water, but you cannot MAKE HIM DRINK>>>>>

YR

by ggturner on 23 March 2012 - 20:03

Agree with RS. She made her own decisions. You cannot blame her family and friends for her poor choices.

by GSD Admin on 23 March 2012 - 21:03

Addiction is a mother-huh? Have any of you guys ever been addicted to anything? Have any of you ever been famous? Plenty of times it does take a family intervention to help people who are addicted.

Show of hands-from the people who have made poor choice/s in life. I think every single one of us has made a poor choice or two in life at one time or another.

I was addicted to cigarettes and it took medication and family and friends to help me kick the habit. Without a support group, most people find it hard to kick addictions.

Look at AAA. Look at other dependency programs.

by GSD Admin on 23 March 2012 - 21:03

5, 4, 3, 2, 1........

by Ninja181 on 23 March 2012 - 21:03

Let me add one important thing to this discussion on addiction.

The person who is addicted will NEVER stop until THEY decide that they WANT too quit. At that time support from others may or may not help depending on the addicted individuals personality.

But if the addicted person does NOT want to quit, all the support and help in the world is going to be useless.

I think what some of the previous posters were trying to say is, that it was Whitney's decisions to do drugs. And apparently she didn't want to quit.

by GSD Admin on 23 March 2012 - 21:03

Once you are addicted it changes everything and the decisions become harder.

Most people need support, not many quit cold turkey on their own.

Ninja, have you ever had an addiction?

by Ninja181 on 23 March 2012 - 22:03

No I have never been addicted to anything.

But I have worked next to people who perished from their addictions.

Now GSD Mod let me ask you a question about smoking. I will bet you tried to quit many times and were unsuccessful. But the time that you finally made it, you were really determined to quit. This IMO would have put you in the proper frame of mind for others to support you and help you quit.

by GSD Admin on 23 March 2012 - 22:03

I had never tried to quit in the past. The first time was a success. I still crave 4 years later but I will never smoke again.

I do not want to get into details but have close family who battled addictions. Some quit and some are still fighting.

And one last thing, sometimes intervention works whether the person is ready or not. Once the intervention is started something just clicks and the person buys in.

by Ninja181 on 23 March 2012 - 22:03

Yes sometimes intervention will work, but usually only after the person has hit rock bottom. Like court intervention, but by then the person has probably been arrested and charged with some type of crime. May have ruined his family life etc. and that can be a wake up call where they finally admit they have a problem. Then they have a chance at rehab.

I don't disagree with anything you said, I am simply trying to point out that I don't believe anyone will ever overcome an addiction unless first, they admit they have a problem, and secondly, they finally want to solve it.

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