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GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 19 December 2011 - 14:12

Gouda, you truly aren't worth any more of my time, effort or thought process to deny or acknoweldge you.  That's the beauty of being HUMAN.  We can always escape back to the ONLY security we have, our own mind.  You go hide under your rock, fearing everything in the forest, if that's your choice.  But when I'm strolling through the beauty of the trees, glimpsing the sunlight, stepping on stones, watching wildlife, hearing sounds, seeing the colors of the entire world, your negativity no longer exists in MY world.  In MY world, diversity is beauty, kindness is pleasing to most and respect keeps is the glue that holds it together.  As long as you remain in your fractured existence, denying and hiding from the beauty, that's fine by me.  Torment is ugly and I hope some day, you'll be able to see a bit of something a little more pleasing to your senses.  I wish you the type of true peace that you so crave and yet, will never find... but in your grave.

by beetree on 19 December 2011 - 14:12

GSDTravels, I have a suggestion, solution that could clarify. Just insert the words, "born-again" in front of Christians in the "insane asylum" comment, and that will give a much needed escape hatch, and hopefully not change your intended meaning.

The truth has been revealed, however, the one true way to leave "them" screaming with insanity is to play Lady Gaga singing IMAGINE by John Lennon. I am sure I was God inspired, he showed me the way.

Amen

Later, got lots of Holiday Cheer to generate, and I predict there will be none here on this thread as long as Gouda can help it.


ggturner

by ggturner on 19 December 2011 - 15:12

This has been a busy place the last couple of days!   Giving and grading exams has kept me away.  I'm a little late, but I believe God gives us the faith to believe.  

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 19 December 2011 - 16:12

gouda,

You are so silly. The other admins will not get involved as much as they would like to.

Want to know why they will not get involved with their mod name? It is because I will not let them. They all have regular user names and they use them. I do not have a regular user name and so therefore I use my admin name. I had a regular user name UNTIL A FEW OLD MODS DECIDED TO TALK AND A BUNCH OF MEMBERS WERE ALL EARS AND THEN MOUTHS. Spreading gossip like a bunch of little kids. I know what I just wrote will be hard for you to understand as it does not contain bible verses and therefore is hard for your brain to process, but if you read it real slow you will understand.

I posted your own words accusing 2 members of being on drugs all because they disagree with you. You can spin it, deflect or plain deny it. You wrote those words whether or not you write I am not accusing them until you are blue in the face that is exactly what you did. Why even bring drugs up. No where did I see GSDTravels disrespecting you or acting rude which was your whole reason for saying Travels must be a drug user. You sir can't even comprehend that what you wrote is an accusation? You did it because you wanted to get a reaction.


Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 19 December 2011 - 16:12

  Gouda, I realize we are not debating Israel..However, this verse is not supporting your argument it is actually hurting your cause. You are confirming with your own mouth.."ISRAEL IS GOD"S CHOSEN PEOPLE"..They are using their own will to choose their actions. They are not choosing whether or not they belong to God..God has ALREADY established that they ARE His people..Israel is PASSIVE in God's decision in choosing a people for Himself.. 

  Now, apply this same theology to the New Testament..It is no different with the grafting in of the gentiles..( Romans explains this perfectly ) The choice has been made by God, we simply respond to Him..We are passive in the choosing, but once the heart has been changed by the Spirit of God, we are then MADE ABLE to respond to the things of God..This is the order of events..

God chooses..
Spirit changes heart of stone..
Faith applied
Profession made
Sanctification
Glorification...

Gouda, I have only a short time left to talk with you about these things..Due to family obligations I will be unable to participate on the database as I would like...Please lets make the most of our time together and part as friends even if we don't agree..

Deanna..



ggturner

by ggturner on 19 December 2011 - 16:12

For GSD admin about evil/suffering and little children.  That is a very difficult topic and very hard to understand.  Most of us do not understand.  Since I am not trained in theology like a pastor, I will post some articles which may be of help.  Note, since I am a Christian, these articles are from a Christian perspective.  

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t023.html

http://www.christadelphia.org/pamphlet/sufferng.htm

http://www.explorefaith.org/world.html

http://pastormarkhaines.wordpress.com/2011/01/18/why-does-god-let-bad-things-happen-to-children/

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 19 December 2011 - 17:12

I have witnessed to much child abuse and the pain and life long suffering of children to just dismiss it as well they are now born again. It is non-sense to even suggest God lets people in heaven who prey upon the most innocent amongst us.

These are my personal views and in no way should they be considered the views of the site owner or other admins.

gouda

by gouda on 19 December 2011 - 17:12

DEANNA WROTE

Gouda, I realize we are not debating Israel..However, this verse is not supporting your argument it is actually hurting your cause. You are confirming with your own mouth.."ISRAEL IS GOD"S CHOSEN PEOPLE"..They are using their own will to choose their actions. They are not choosing whether or not they belong to God..God has ALREADY established that they ARE His people..Israel is PASSIVE in God's decision in choosing a people for Himself.. 

 My  reply--  This proves you are wrong Deanna.

God chose Israel to be His chosen people---- we both agree.

Now lets start here with Zech 13:8--  And it shall come to pass,that in all the land,saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut of and die; but the third shall be left therein.
v,9 And I will bring the third part through the fire,and will refine them as silver is refined,and;they SHALL CALL MY NAME,AND i WILL HEAR THEM; I will say,It is my people;and they shall say, The lord is my God  Of all gods chosen people,only one third will say the Lord is my God...  ALL CHOSEN ,BUT ONLY 1/3 CALLED HIS NAME
I have so much material on this subject. We can continuew this After Christmas if you wish. It will be a busy week for every one.

 I will always remain your friend in Christ.

    gouda


gouda

by gouda on 19 December 2011 - 17:12

GSDadmin.   wrote

I posted your own words accusing 2 members of being on drugs ..

You posted no such thing.  Stop your lies please.

     gouda

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 19 December 2011 - 17:12

Gouda, I will send you a PM ..Please read it..I am done on this thread,..:)

Deanna,,:)





 


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