Bad Week for WDA - Page 2

Can't the WDA cobble together memberships from other oganization in Europe?  Say they become members of both RSV2000 and the IRO, wouldn't they then have access to FCI judges that could also have an SV/WUSV certification, in addition to an FCI judging certification?  Note, to those that don't know, there are a number of judges that have both, worldwide.  If they did it that way, they wouldn't need the GSDCA's permission to hold trials or certify thier judges.  Does anyone know the specific rules for when a judge that is both an FCI judge and a SV/WUSV judge can use their SV stamp when recording something in a scorebook?  Also what if the WDA started flying in WUSV judges from South America?

There is also the unexplored option of the WDA officially partnering with a German Emergency Agency and offering the DH Diensthund (Service Dog) title direclty in the USA, bypassing the SV and still having dogs whom earn it, being eligable to get a breed survey (Same as the RH2, RH-2-A and RH-2-B titles).

 If the WDA can not get recognition by the SV/WUSV, the WDA would be useless to those that brought it to this point. The WDA thought they could wrestle the WUSV seat away from the GSDCA, if they can't do that, they are done. 

The WDA as an organization is done.  WDA member Individuals and clubs should look into RSV2000.

What is the GSDCA going to replace the WDA with ? They're not IPO or working dog people for the most part.  Organize another working arm ? :-)

Thomas Barriano

Why does the GSDCA need a separate organization to host IPO trials and certify judges and helpers? Its my understanding that they do not, based on the rules.

Did anyone consider my rules interpretation with the WDA becoming an IRO member and/or partnering with a german emergency management agency so they can start issuing the DH title?  What's stopping the WDA from becoming a club that issues other working titles that are eligable for breed surveys?  No one has chimed in on the WDA's use of judges that are both FCI and SV certified, while not being a part of the WUSV, based on actual knowledge of the FCI rules.  Also note, USCA, the SV and DVG are all members of the IRO and must accept their scorebooks and titles issued by IRO judges. It's not as open and shut as some here are proclaiming

Thomas the GSDCA seems to be doing alright now that they are handling things for themselves. There are enough capable people within the GSDCA that they don't need to farm it out.

I disagree on the GSDCA having enough IPO expertise to handle sending a team to the WUSV. We'll see how it plays out.  We still have the AKC recognizing IPO titles on AKC pedigrees deal.  Several AKC breed clubs have designated separate working dog clubs to hold trials where IPO tiltles are eligible to be placed on AKC pedigrees. The DPCA went with the UDC and the GSDCA went with the WDA. What happens now ?

 

Thomas Barriano

Wda, sv fci, akc, wusv,bsp, iro, rsv, gsdca, udc, dpca....... WTF.

There have been changes made to the program where the AKC recognizes IPO titles on the AKC pedigree.  If you look at the AKC page: http://images.akc.org/pdf/titles/working_dog/recognized_titles.pdf, you will notice that the WDA is no longer the organization awarding the titles.  Recognized titles are now awarded through events held by the GSDCA.

Does that mean that titles awarded at UScA trials are not recognized, Christine?

Dobermannman:

First of all, you might be surprised how many GSDCA members are working dog people. In like manner, you might be even more surprised how many of the conformation folks in the GSDCA are actually in SV style dogs and showing. Also, you might note, the GSDCA already has a working dog/SV events arm in place and operating pretty successfully. It is and has been hosting trials and shows  The working arm you questioned, is an official committee within the GSDCA. It also has two WUSV Licensed Conformation Judges and a goodly number of licensed and respected Working Dog Judges, and even one licensed DPO Judge. It has a number of certified Local, Regional and National Trial Helpers and Teaching Helpers. It also has a number of successfully operating local clubs with the prospect of several more coming on board very soon.

The GSDCA is a multifaceted club affording a broad range of activities and events with the intention to provide as many activities for  GSD lovers as possible. Not every one is going to want a Schutzhund Dog but a lot of people want a German Shepherd Dog and they want to do something with it. Like the SV, the GSDCA is not just a Schutzhund Sport Club. Like the SV it is not just a conformation club,  and like the SV it is a German Shepherd Dog Club for all who choose to become involved and do something with their wonderful animals.

momosgarage: 

Although nothing is impossible, I suspect political decorum would make WUSV judges from any other country more than somewhat hesitant to come into a WUSV country to judge a trial/show being held by a non-WUSV member.