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by Nans gsd on 21 December 2012 - 16:12

So to Slamdunc and others:  what comparison is there between training for the PD and training a PPD, in the beginning of course,  I realise the training for Police K9's is very intense later in the dog's lives but for PPD?  Isn't the beginning training the same; say the first year or so?  Thx  Nan

ziegenfarm

by ziegenfarm on 21 December 2012 - 16:12

jim, i was trying to be nice, then you turn around and insult me again.
whatever Roll eyes  happy holidaysBeer Mug  i'm outta here.
pjp

Hired Dog

by Hired Dog on 21 December 2012 - 16:12

A PPD is and should be used strictly as a defense animal. Different drives are needed, some more and some less then what a Police patrol dog would require. Defense drives are higher in that type of dog and prey drives, although utilized during training, are not, or should not be exercised when using the dog in real life. 
A PPD should NOT chase someone down the street for an apprehension, it does not need to hunt for a suspect at 2:30AM in a large field or a buidling nor does it need to track a suspect. In my opinion, most of the bites, if they ever occur, in a PPD, should be done around a 6 foot leash...near the owner of the dog.



susie

by susie on 21 December 2012 - 16:12

Slam: "There are a lot of reasons in sport for a decoy or third party to deliver a correction.  Do I have the decoy correct my dog, generally no.  Have I done this over the years in SchH training?  Yes, I have.  I prefer not to but I do understand that their may be a time in training when it is necessary."

Made me smile!  This kind of people you can see in the clubs almost every weekend. They don´t know what´s going on, and IF they understand, it´s too late.
A correction made by the helper always is 2. or 3. choice, but for "points" it´s not that bad, if the handler is too slow or without feeling for the dog.
Most of the dogs are in prey drive, they won´t mind.

Slam: "For Police K-9's no, the decoy never corrects the dog."

During training for police work the dog ALWAYS needs to know that it is able to defeat the "bad guy", healthy aggression and defense is asked, no prey drive.

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 21 December 2012 - 17:12

Ziegenfarm,
I'm not sure where or how I insulted you in that post?  It was not my intention.  I was trying to clarify my point in a more general way.  That post was not necessarily directed to you just a response in general to the aspect of a decoy correcting a dog.  

Nans,
Some aspects of the training would be very similar but there is a lot more involved in training a Police K-9.  There are many things that a K-9 would be required to do that a PPD would not need to do.   The bite work, suit work, hidden sleeves and muzzle work in training would be similar.  Hired dog is spot on with his response.

Susie,
I'm glad that you see my point and we see things in a similar way.

Happy Holidays everyone!

by Nans gsd on 22 December 2012 - 00:12

Thank you both Hired Dog and Slamdunc, and happy holidays to all of you out there.  Nan





 


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