Cedric and the team please accept our sincere condolences at this sad time.Another great dog goes over the rainbow bridge.
Tom and Julie
Astana GSD's

Sincere condolences to Cedric and the team, on your sad loss of Champ Von Dakota.



Joyce, Eddie & All At Jemness Gsds

I would like to send my condolences to Cedric and Co on the loss of their Dog Champ Von Dakota, He will be a great loss to the breed. Hopefully we will see some of his pups comming through to carring on his legacy.

Congratulations to all at Karanberg on Champ once again becoming Irish Seiger.An excellent result for a seven year old.

Rod.

Congratulations on gaining VA1 in Ireland with Champ, being Sieger now for 3 years running. Welll done.

Congratulations to all concerned with Champ and all the best for the future
Tom and Julie

VA1 Irish Sieger Show 2007 !!!!!!

THER IS TO CHAMP V. DAKOTA SONS THAT ARE IN THE BREDING IN NORWAY, ONE IS THE SABEL BÄR V. LÜTTJENHAN AND ONE IS THE B\T VOTAN AV QUANTOS. THEY ARE BOTH WERRY GOOD PRODUCERS OF CHAMP V. DAKOTA LINS. WE IN KENNEL QUANTOS HAVE A GOOD STOCK WITH SABELS BOTH MALE AND FEMALES, WE ALLSO HAVE A SABEL DAUGHTER OF CHAMP THAT ARE BREDING WERRY WELL IN OR KENNEL. TAKE A LOOCK IN OR HP. www.kennelquantos.com BEST REGARDS FROM TEAM QUANTOS.

Thats good to see a sable so sucessfull! I like sable, they look wild and brave, besides we cant forget the German Shepherd first came in the sable version (Horand).
Lets keep the collor diversity in our breed that patrimony.

I hope sables are preserved in all versions.

Very nice male! I hope to learn more about this fabulous dog!

Champ's mother IS a sable female.
I cannot tell you how many times I've heard "incorrect" comments regarding the producing of the sable color.

You MUST have a sable parent to produce a sable puppy!..
The Arlett Kennel keeps the sable color gene in her bloodlines.

Just as an add on, his son Orlando von der Vallendarer-Höhe SchH2 made V3, 2 places behind his father at the Irish Sieger show.

Many Congratulations on the title win of Sieger at the Irish Sieger Show. If his young sable son here on the mainland is anything to go by, he is passing his quality onto his progeny.
All the best for the future.
Sue B

Many congratulations to Champ and his owner for making the title of Irish Sieger 2005.

"...to produce a sable one of the parents MUST be a sable!"

This is absolutely true. Vienchen is sable.

Brandi, of course Champs mother is a sable,not a great coloured sable but a sable never the less.This colour comes through Vienchen,Jock,Soffie,Etc Etc and I think you will find that to produce a sable one of the parents MUST be a sable!

To All,

From someone that has a TRUE sable...there are many different variables of this color. A big one to remember...we have our Show line GSD sable and the working line GSD sable. They are very different. Jock is close to a sable as is Champ. Though it's much different than the working line sables. And to be honest, the closest sable yet is ONLY in Timo(and his progeny). Compare Timo and Champ... different aren't they? Then compare these two boys to say...Eagle v. Eichenluft...VERY different, yes? Yes. I'm not a strong believer in, one parent has to be sable in order to produce a sable. Champ's Mom is NOT a sable, nor is his Dad either. But I think certain dilutes to others can produce sables. It just all depends on what line/colors are bred together. No one REALLY knows for sure how some of these dogs, such as Champ become sables...

this is a werry good black and tan son of champ v. dakota. schh 1. bhp 1. kkl.1. votan av quantos. he is now reddy fore stud, so if you are interested call:004741261117 or e-mail:aanjenil@online.no

Can somebody,pleas,explane the diference between sable and b/t...

P.S.:This dog is beautyful.I like his son "Buffalo Bill von Haus Curak Onda" best.
He is 1st on every SHOW!!!

the best sabel male i can think raight now. loock or litter with him is exsellente. they are good in ipo. and schh. they are good with children and good in haouse and in kennel. i hope to use him one maybe several more times in or breeding program. so keep up the good work whit him and the breeders will come. see or web site fore more info. www.teamquantos.com

Yes, Jock is a Sable - we have here here in Australia

Yes, Jock is a Sable - we have hom here in Australia

sendling,
I didn''t say she was b/t. I said she LOOKS b/t on the picture. But she is sable, Jock-sable.
:)

hi david,
thanks for your comment. i thought my comment was clear enough.
see you on the siegershow.
regards
ogi

Hi Ogi, I think you need to explain very, very, carefully. to produce a sable, one of the parents HAS to be a sable. then again, they may wish to argue about that FACT. its not unusual in these debates, anything goes.

hi schaeferhund,
if you agree with me champ¿s father is b/t and if you think his mother is also b/t could you please explain to all of us how two b/t¿s have managed to produce a sable.
thanks in advance
o.kapidzic
sendling-kennel.de

They say, when they have doubts about what to put down as colour they examine single hairs. With black/tan dogs (week pigmentation or not) the hairs are homogenous in colour, where in sable dogs the hairs are multicoloured. To me Champ is definitely sable, but his mom I would rather call b/t. :) Well, I guess she's just hardcore borderline :)

Sorry for the double post earlier, I hit send twice while rubbing my eyes to look better I guess.lol

I do see some sable in the mom, grandfather, and gr grandmother. Soffie is a great example.

That's one weak sable color I see red and black with a weak saddle mark I see parents that look red/black. But, I'll take your word and the registration papers for it.

hmmm

That's one weak sable color I see red and black with a weak saddle mark I see parents that look red/black. But, I'll take your word and the registration papers for it.

hmmm

"He is not the modern middle size type."

Most of the "modern" top dogs aren't....

Yes, he is sable.

Sable??? that's no sable

OK, He looks very good, but he is 69 cm! He is not the modern middle size type.

Excellent!!! He looks too good.

He¿s very lovely and I hope he will win this year.

I think Champ will be the second VA sable dog. Good luck to him!!!