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Hey CHaz. How many people do u know that survived on foot, getting hit by a semi doing 60 MPH. I also have yet to hear of any animal able to move after being ran over by a semi. Also Chaz doesn't bother me a bit as to what Thomas says just would like to see his proof. Where is his proof.

I'm IN COURT ALL DAY LONG AND I SEE THIS ON THE INTERNET AND SAY WOW POOR DOG AND WOW POOR FAMILY AND THERE ISN'T REALLY A REASON TO MAKE THIS UP OTHER THAN WHAT OTHERS MAKE IT OUT TO BE. Someone goes and gets the necropsy report, plants it all over the internet and then u prey down upon it, pick it apart and make it what u want it to be and put words that aren't even in the report. And now u want this new report released so u  can do the same. RIGHT

I hope someday this poor dog will be able to Rest In Peace.

No matter how the dog died or what the circumstances of his death my heart goes out to the family, I'm sure they are heartbroken, as we all are when we lose one of our dogs.

There is a reason I rarely post on any forums I belong to, its because of crap like this, it's like a school girl cat fight that just doesn't seem to stop...lol.

To the poster who first posted Meth was found in the dogs system, it probably would have been more advisable to post something like this...and I'm taking this from "The Official Site Of The Hex Investigation",... 

Toxicology reports received indicating methamphetamine in Hex's body ,

* Forensic interpretation/opinion pending.

To me that does not state that Meth was in fact in the body...indicating means "to be a sign or symptom of", it does not mean Meth was in fact in the body, and as you can see with the notation below it, it says Forensic interpretation/opinion pending...thats a big difference that posting Meth was found in the body.

Nickysheltie....I find it kind of humorous that you call Thomas out to enlighten us on how he knows so much out side the box, what I'd like is for you to explain how you know so much as fact... 

"What is fact, there will be arrests made, fact-hex was stolen -fact-hex was murdered -factno he wasn't hit by a truck -fact- Meth. Was. Found in his system. -fact-pertty hard for hex to get into Meth when he lives out in the middle of no where.."

Fact generally means verifiable truth, could you explain how you know all this to be fact, please enlighten me.

FTR...I don't know Thomas so don't go there, I did donate to the Hex fund, I don't care what they do with the money, if there is any left over I'd have no problem for it being used for whatever the family wishes.

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Big difference, man and dog. A Gsd male is about 26" at the withers. Humans even at 5' 5" is a little taller. Do you know what the clearance of a semi is? I watched my golden retriever get hit by a car going 45, when I was a kid. I thought he was dead. The car never stopped. He rolled numerous times and ran after the car. We ended up giving him to a farm because he was nuts, but anything is possible. Isn't that your argument? And why are you so eager to find out the dog was murdered? Wouldn't you be happy to find out it was merely owner negligence for not having a fence?

BAHCAN.How many people close to the govedniks have spoken up on the internet scince hex disappeared, stating they were there, searched the exact ditch where he laid to rest, saw his body, after two weeks of missing and how many people refused to believe them basically calling them liars and blaming the owner for negligence. I believe that would be verifiable fact. These are individuals that were there, these are individuals that witnessed the search and know the dog was not in the ditch he was found in 2weeks later. These individuals were there when hex was found in the ditch and they helped load him in the vehicle for transport. I believe that is verification. But know one wants to believe that people could do something so heinous to an animal for vengeance and yet it happens all the time all over the world.

Chaz, You are the one that made the statement regarding people survive plane crashes and car accidents ect. So what does that have to do with an 85#dog. Big difference between a dog getting hit by a car doing 45 MPH versus a dog getting hit by a semi doing 60mph.I have seen cats survive getting hit by a car, but not by a semi.

BAHCAN. I also don't generally bother with forums like these, but when people twist words, throw stones, and make accusations about something they know nothing about and when individuals come foward that do know a little about what happened first hand because they were there it tends to make me wonder why they are so determined to to make accusations and say hurtful things against others that have been known for many years by many people to be honest and caring people just get ripped apart by others at a heartbreaking time. There has been a lot of this going on and pointed at the govedniks. Slandering their names and making them look like liars. Wouldn't you like to know why?

I also donated to the fund. And now that I have said what I have to say, I would hope people would stop dragging these people's good name's through the mudd and let the investigation find what it finds and let the govedniks mourn their wonderful dog hex. You all have a MERRY CHRISTMAS.

OH and Thomas we as in all on the internet never stopped laughing at you, like I said you make the day good. Good laugh is a good destresser and you do that very well for all. Keep it coming so we can keep laughing at you :)

"the County Sheriff and Pathollogist"

Umm, let's be precise here--there was NO determination or diagnosis included in the preliminary necropsy report, and nowhere in that report does the *pathologist* make any commentary as to the cause of the conditions observed on the gross examination. The opinion that *some* of the injuries observed on the gross examination were consistent with vehicular trauma did not come from the pathologist, but rather from the private practitioner listed as the referring vet, and who is NOT a pathologist and not on staff with the University (frankly, I have to wonder at how that practitioner came to release the preliminary report to the police to begin with--it seems premature, IMO). A gross exam is just that--an narrative of what was observed with the naked eye.  It does not include theorization as to how any injuries or damage to the body came to be--that only comes after all of the workup is completed...when a FINAL report is issued, with a commentary of diagnosis or determination in the closing portion of the report.

As for the County Sheriff, yep, they made the decision to close the case based on a telephone call the department received, which is certainly their prerogative. And of course, it would never be the case that a law enforcement agency closes a case based on a plausible claim in the face of the limited amount of information they were able to obtain via investigation, simply because there's a limit to the amount of manpower and tax dollars that can be justifiably expended on any one case, right?  I have no issue with what the Sheriff's department has done to date, frankly, but there are things that simply don't add up for an accidental vehicular assault, and if the family wants to see those questions answered, I fully support their efforts to pursue further inquiry.

But I  agree with whoever suggested that perhaps it would be best if the Govednik family kept their counsel from this point forward as far as the completed necropsy and all professional interpretations are concerned, as it just triggers more Khruschevian protestations of 'hit by a semi! hit by a semi!'...and that benefits no one.