2013 FCI and WUSV Championships - Page 5

Wrong about everything else so why not that too!

A link to Dan Yee's letter to the WDA membership during his re-election campaign (which he won) .. in it he explains what really happened concerning the 2014 WUSV Qualifier and that if it fails to be fair and honest it will be the last one and a new selection process will need to be devised by the WUSV to select participants for the USA team.  Since Dan Yee actually wrote down and documented what happened and in light of the fact that he also had with him a GSDCA representative who also approved of this statement I believe his account of the events and the agreement to be factual.

http://gallery.mailchimp.com/7229c52c6f10bafe7b8dfc003/files/Dan_Yee_Message.001.pdf

Hey,

​                              I,ll bet you a hundred dollars that in less then 2 years the WDA won,t even be around!. So it really is a moot discussion.
 

Thank You Bubbabooboo for being man enough to post proof on here that you are making things up.
Some of the things I stated are directly backed up by Dan Yee’s letter. Nothing I stated was contradicted by Dan Yee’s letter. And a LOT of what you made up is contradicted by Dan Yee’s letter…
 
 
Let’s look at who said what?
 
Bubbabooboo said
 The WUSV brought the WDA and USCA to the table as they can do that as THEY the WUSV are in CHARGE .. the USCA did nothing but attend the meeting as required..
 
I said:
Dan Yee approached USCA for the meeting, not the WUSV.


Dan Yee said:
On Sunday morning, the day prior to the WUSV General Assembly meeting, representatives from USCA,GSDCA and WDA met.

Who’s making things up? Answer Bubbabooboo The WUSV was not at the meeting and did not "bring" anyone to the table.
 
Bubbabooboo said
Dan Yee was forced to withdraw his motion from a vote by the WUSV membership.  

I said:
Dan Yee was not "Forced" to withdraw his motion.

Dan Yee said:
Based upon the foregoing agreement, the GSDCNWDA voluntarily withdrew its motion from the
WUSV agenda and did not present the same for consideration.
 
Who’s making things up? Answer Bubbabooboo again
 
Bubbabooboo said:
.  In exchange the WUSV decreed that they would set the ground rules, supply judges and run the organizational rules of the 2014 WUSV qualifier in the USA.
 
I said:

The USCA pushed for One judge and both sides agreed that the WUSV would supply us with 3 names of Judges qualified to judge the WUSV World Championships that are available. It is then up to us to decide which one to use. Both sides can throw out one name or choose to accept all. If there are more than one name left the remaining names will be put in a hat and one name drawn to judge the event.


 
Dan Yee said:
The parties also agreed to one judge for the event  . That judge shall be selected  from a pool of three judges who will be chosen by the WUSV Board. The three judges (1 ) must be qualified to officiate at a WUSV World Championship, (2) must speak sufficient English to provide a critique of each competitor's performance, and (3) may not be a member of either the USCA or the WDA.  The names of these three judges shall be presented  to the USCA and  WDA.   Each organization may eliminate one name from the list of three. The names of all judges who are not eliminated shal l be placed into a hat and the one name drawn from the hat shall be the judge for the event.
 
Who’s making things up? Answer again Bubbabooboo
 
The agreement was to revisit if the 2014 event was not successful. It is not up WDA or USCA to overturn the requirement to hold a qualification trial. The WUSV mandates that countries hold that. USCA agreed to revisit the parameters around the Qualification trial if things did not go smoothly, we did not agree to do away with it, as that is not either organizations call.


Bubbabooboo, I know you have a USCA hater agenda but please try to keep to facts instead of just making things up that did not happen.

 

Unknown,
Please stop clouding the issue with facts and accurate information!   Geez, why ruin bubba's fantasy thread.

The facts as presented in Dan Yee's written statement are correct .. 2014 will be the last joint USCA/WDA joint qualifier in it's present form if the USCA cheats as in the last 3 years.

Definition of CHEAT  .. act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, esp. in a game or examination.

Ignoring and blatantly breaking the rules of the WUSV is cheating and the USCA did that for 5 consecutive years and in the words of the SV/WUSV president "continuously".  Caputo cheated at the 2013 WUSV qualifier by unfairly and dishonestly scoring the WDA participants.  The evidence of both incidents is clear. The USCA condoned and defended both actions in order to gain an unfair and dishonest advantage.  Cheaters are always cheaters and can always find an excuse to cheat and a story to explain away their cheating .. because they are natural born cheaters and liars. The unfair and dishonest treatment of the GSDCA and the GSDCA-WDA membership by the USCA is documented and was called to full attention in the "do or die" letter by the WUSV and then Alloway as in the tradition of the USCA presidents before him just said "we didn't know".  Classic tactics by a liar and a cheat representing the will of the membership of the USCA.  If the USCA wants to cheat it's own members (no real voting by one man one vote as the WDA does) and if the members want to cheat among themselves as in "my turn to win" then that is an internal matter.  The cheating of the WDA at any joint event with the USCA is going to stop one way or another and the USCA has nothing to say about it.  The GSDCA, GSDCA-WDA, and the WUSV has had enough of the lies and cheating.

Thanks Unknown for providing corroboration of what you said with Dan Yee's letter....we are intelligent enough to distinguish the wheat from the chaff.

Germany controls nearly one quarter (63) of the WUSV general assembly votes directly in the WUSV assembly and controls almost all the reigns of power.  Whatever you want from the WUSV the Germans must in the very least not oppose it or in the best case support it.  Now all of you "wheat from chaff" USCA intelligent consider that Germany says "Dan Yee give it one more try with the WUSV qualifier using real WUSV judges and if it goes badly we support you in 2015 for a new selection process, or if you go ahead with your WDA motion to kill the qualifier in 2014 we will vote against your motion and our 25% voting block of the assembly combined with others who vote solidly with us will kill your motion".  Now if that is not political force give a better definition.  No country that wants any part in the power structure of the WUSV will cross the SV because they are the unstoppable force and if you double cross them they can do with you what they want.  The WUSV president can pick up enough votes with a few phone calls to pass or defeat any motion at will.  Yee withdrew his motion because he knew it would fail without SV support and the price for that support in the future was to do what the WUSV wanted in 2014.  The WUSV will have their own judge on the field in 2014 at the WUSV qualifier and if anything unfortunate happens as at the 2013 AWDF championship to Ivan Balabanov or at the WUSV qualifier 2013 to Krista Wade they will get the facts from their own soldier's lips.  

Bubba, both clubs have their issues - no lie! - and I'm glad I'm not in the WDA, but you aren't furthering the cause in any way. I suspect Yee would rather you didn't put words in his mouth, as he can speak for himself. After all your ranting, I'm so glad you aren't in USCA as we don't need  people like you messing things up any more than they are.