Headcollars - Page 5

There is a style of muzzle that has mesh instead of being solid fabric. Which allows more air through the sides and restricts breathing less. Truth be told if she can get a "Muzzle punch" on to another dog she can still get a mouth fill of skin with her front teeth. One of the worse bites i've ever seen while grooming was a muzzle like the one pictured and a bad ass cocker. He nailed my bather with the muzzle on and held on like a pit bull! I've never heard a man scream like that! Had to punch the dog in the head to make him let go and the guy quit a few days later. From that day on that dog had to be sedated for grooming.
Good luck with your project dog and beware the idiots.
Fry

Yes, it's very similar to that, though maybe a bit longer. It's tight enough that she almost has to 'suck' the hotdog bit into her mouth. I certainly would not want her wearing it in hot weather, and even in cool weather, 30 minutes was long enough. She drooled a lot while wearing it, so I will have to wash it frequently.

Yikes, Fry!  That's exactly why I didn't want her getting close enough to another dog to bite through the muzzle!  When she bit Ranger, she held on like a pit bull!

SOOO glad she's not aggressive to people, just dogs!

Thanks for the info.  Good to know that that my muzzle is "mostly for show" and it really will not stop a determined bite.  Kind of funny that it is the various vets that have always insisted on the muzzle and this is the one they want me to use...

 

Fawn, I only used a soft sided muzzle for bringing to the vets for one dog who needed toe clipping. Eventually we didn't even need that. Similar to your picture. It was the real McCoy "Haltie" that was the joke. 

If you have presence and a no nonsense attitude, coupled with some dog handling skill, you can skip all this head-holding nonsense. Really.

Vets insist on muzzles, fawndallas? On all GSD's or just some?

Couple years ago i had a very large white shepherd come in for a grooming after his vet checkup. The owner had him muzzled. Since i worked for the vet he warned me the dog was "owner" protective.
But out of her sight he was pretty calm. Well i took the dog and had her put him in a kennel in he back. Went to get him to start his brush out and he's in there snarling and barking through the muzzle. I told him "What ever dude" and calmly leashed him and walked him outside for a potty break. Then in for his groom. At first he was a bit skitzy, but after about 20 minutes i took the muzzle off. He was fine. I only had to speak sternly to him once or twice to stop moving around on the table. And for the most part he was a good dog.
His owner i raked over the coals because she was 100% the cause of his problems. I told her come here calm, happy and and he will do the same. I also sent her to the behaviorist we use and in a month he was a totally different dog. Because she quit acting like a freak around him. He was actually a really nice goofy dog.
Not every vet requires muzzles But mine made notes on the charts and we muzzled if needed, not as policy.
And some people are braver then others......
Fry

I always understood the reason vets prefer you to use the 'tube'
(Mikki -type, or open mesh) muzzles was that if the dog thrashes
around they get hit by the dogs head, not head plus half a pound
of stiff plastic or leather (as with the basket / Baskerville muzzles).

Although it is quite painful to be whacked by a plastic one, the
dogs head, if on any sizeable dog, is usually quite painful enough
too.  So it never made a whole lot of sense to me !  Especially since
as people have pointed out, the tube muzzles almost always allow
the dog to nip with its incisors.

When the vet was treating Ranger's bite wound, they didn't muzzle him, even though they KNEW he had bitten someone. I guess they had it marked on his chart that he was not the sort of dog that would normally bite. However, when they started to syringe the wounds out with normal saline, I recommended they muzzle him, just in case the pain was too much. They did, but it really wasn't necessary. All he did whimper a bit.

The muzzle they used was like a cloth bag, and covered the jaws completely. It seemed rather baggy, which made me wonder if the dog could actually bite through it if it tried.

My Baron is the only one my vet's have requested to be muzzled.  It is because of his unpredictability.  He maybe all happy and willing to allow others to run the rules one minute and the next minute decide he wants to establish full dominance with everyone around him (dog, cat, human, does not matter).  He is very smart and has no quarms with doing what it takes to put someone on the ground to dominate.   Heaven help you if he doesn't like you.  If he would "out" on command, this would not be so bad.  He doesn't though.  Once he is engaged, it take full body contact to disengage him.  At this point, I am the only one brave (or stupid) enough to knock him on his rear when he is engaged.   Baron is a whole bundle of mistakes and lessons learned.  I love him though.  When the chips are down, I want him in my corner.  If I go camping by myself to a remote area, he goes with me.
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I digress though.  I hope you find your solution.