Dog Bites The Trainer - Page 2

There are some trainers who because of the way they train, I would bite them.  but then again they would probably put me down because my Rabies shots aren't up to date.

Three sides to every story, ( his,hers and the truth) sometimes the truth is clouded with too much opinion. I would not ever let someone else correct my dog. You need to learn and it takes time. If I lost my mind and let someone handle my dog and they corrected him and he bit him, I would probity suggest they move faster and not get bit, or not correct my dog and do not bleed on my him. Send me a bill and tell me not to come back......I would buy him some "lighter fluid" instruct him to put it on his socks to keep the ants off his candy ass.

 

He deserved to get bit and your'e lucky you're not welcome any more.  I wouldn't want to go back to someone that claims to be a professional, is charging money, gets what they're asking for by being a dumbass, and then threatens a lawsuit.

I'd send a certified letter stating you are not liable  for anything.  Do not talk about what happened, do not say for his injuries, do not say anything.  Just say you are not liable, you did nothing wrong.  any damages that occured were a direct result of the trainer and his actions.

let him file a suit, he won't win if you're smart.

Yes there are many ways to slow a dog on track, a hard correction with a prong is not on my list.
I'm no fan of prong collars, nothing new there.

I won't tolerate my dog biting me for correcting it at all.

That might really impress some people, not me.

Any trainer or helper surely must expect to get bitten during their career at some point.

 

it's dangerous how some people in the states always have a lawyer ready even for the smallest of things, mabey i should get a lawyer and claim something from your DOD  after all i got bitten 6-7 times untill today and it alwas happend when trainning for DOD or maybe 1time for LAk9 i don't remember
get the wounds cleaned out, stitches in get the bite suit back on is standard procedure overhere, last time it was even the vet who stitched me up
biggest problem i ever had was when both my hands, forearms were about 2x normal size and 39 stitches were in them,2broken fingers and everything black,blue purple etc
try cutting your steak when you even can't hold a fork, or the worst thing whipping your ass off !!! 
it's all part of the game so tell him to suck it up, i don't see any racecar drivers getting a lawyer because they misjudge a corner and end up against a wall
but if he's that afraid of your dog after a small incident like this, i can guarantee he's gonna get bitten again and again and again by several dogs who sence he's doubt
further there are other methods to slow a dog down in tracking than a prong collar,and those options schould always be first choice when you give sportstrainning, further if the trial was comming up soon you never change the routine i tought this was basic knowledge for every trainner especially if that dog already had problems in that part
 

I don't tolerate my dogs biting me from a correction either.  I think it's a bunch of crap when they do.  Says something about the dog and/or the relationship.  But this wasn't a case of a dog biting its owner, but some dumbass who deserved it :)  I'm at a point now, I'd never give a leash to anybody I didn't trust explicitly, and even that would be a rarity because i'm the handler, not anybody else.  But if I would by chance give it to someone like above and they did something that dumb, I wouldn't feel to badly of the dog gave them what they were asking for.

It's the trainer's fault he got bit.  And if I were a trainer, I'm pretty sure I'd have good health insurance and good short term disability.  But I would be inclined to pay 1/2 the bill - if it were reasonable.  If he didn't have insurance and the bill was really high, then too bad.  Should know better than to work with dogs without insurance.

Trainers getting bit is like butchers getting cut.  Or construction workers hitting their thumb with a hammer.

But assuming for a second that the dog is a fear biter - aren't they the dogs that need training the most?  Why would a trainer that trains aggressive dogs not want to help someone that has a dog that is fear aggressive - and I'm not saying the dog in question is fear aggressive?  And if it were fear aggressive - shouldn't the trainer been able to spot it real early in the process?

Ethically, if you get bitten by dog which you are handling and you are the trainer it is always your fault.  This is akin to the roofer falling from the roof and blaming the home owner for his injury because  the ruff on the  house is too steep.  In this case it is also too easy to argue that the "trainer" did use a tool of pinch collar too hard for the dog and without bonding and learning the characteristics of such dog. This is a novice mistake and happens when the trainer deals with too many dogs and too fast and is schematically applying one method on all dogs. I would tell him that he owes you for the tuition which he learned by mishandling and potentially creating a problem in your valuable dog. 
   Legally, In Arizona  person responsible for the dog is the one holding leash. Since he was holding the leash and he is professional or claims to be expert on training dogs= trainer on top of it, then  he is totally responsible for his injury. In AZ I would tell him to go pound salt. But I would check you laws in your state, county, city.  
You can always pay later,  when he hires a layer and files charges. So far he is only saber rattling.  Later on you may pay him  in order to avoid lawsuit which you may win but the cost may be pyrrhic victory and you may not want to go there. 
Goodness of the heart. Anything you are paying to him voluntarily would be out of goodness of your heart. Since he is a dick, then  this eventuality would be fading out fast  in my book. 
Prager Hans

Good! I would have bit the trainer too!
Trainer that don't get bit don't learn that their knowledge is rather limited....

Wow, you all get one side of some first time posters story and your ready to lynch the man in the town square. 
What if the trainer's story is slightly different? This is the dog that bit my trainer, in the face. And the arm, sending the man to the hospital for stitches to his eyelid since it was slit in half. The bite to the arm was not nearly as serious.
From what i gather he did tell the man to put a pinch collar on the dog. But he did not "Correct" the dog with the collar. He claims the dog bit his arm when he threw down some bait and the over eager dog started to go after it. He verbally told the dog NO. The dog redirected and attacked the trainer. Who was forced to try a choke out to make the dog release because the owner had NO control over his newly acquired dog. And the OP offered to pay for the damages when the trainer went to the hospital. There was also a witness to the incident who was also out tracking with them. So the story has two witnesses to his one.

Now the OP is reneging on his offer because the trainer doesn't want an unstable dog in our training group.
The trainer is not some newby in IPO or some corner trainer but a highly rated and currently highly ranked IPO competor.
All you all are doing is egging on this person so that it becomes a law suit instead of someone standing by their word.  I'm fine with him going some where else to train. 
Maybe Ivan will have better luck not getting nailed.
Fry