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All I have to say is that I purchased my male pup from him a few years ago, and this was my first purchase over the internet. I am very happy with my male and he gave me exactly what I wanted. He has solid nerves and the drive to work up the wing wang. I can not however say how he deals with the adult dog's that he sells. All I know is Wayne and his wife(then) worked with me and answered all my questions, and I couldn't have asked for a better dog. Can I afford another one through him now, NO. When I got my male pup he was selling them a lot cheaper than he is now.

DX this is what I am trying to show the rest of the people that read boards like this one.

QUOTE:  It is emotional for us.  Whether that is good or bad, it is fact.

The "FACT" is that this is not what people should be learning. Take them to court.

QUOTE:  I am not a fool or a pushover. 

By definition of your actions, you are exactly that. You got fooled into purchasing an unhealthy male. Did this dog have the required health certification?? If so the vet can be sued.

You are a pushover, as he applied a little force and you caved in to what he wanted which was to get rid of the dog and pay nothing back.

I am not saying that I hate you, I do not, but be careful about what definitions you want to go by.

I am an idiot, as I am the guy that would go to the mans house and throw the dog and his crate through the front window of this asswipes house. Get the whole thing on video tape and post it everywhere.

NOTHING is worth my dignity, I assure you, not a sick dog for damn sure.

I guess that is why I have questions about why a breeder is bashed here...There is no need to bash him  give the pup or adult dog back....I have never had any health problems like this in my breeding, so maybe is it foreign to me to understand how a breeder got by with selling this male, without a health certificate, and without the knowledge of others here dealing with the same dog...since it was out of a notable dog...Was this dog sch1, which to get a V he had to be, and was he koerd? 

The only problem I have encountered is a case of Dermadectic  on a male and a female out of two different litter.....

A male I purchased from two kk1 gsd also , I found out later , had a bout with dermadectic and a brother of same litter.....THIS LARGE BREEDER NEVER QUIT BREEDING THE PAIR...

The pup my partner bought last June, also had a bout with Dermadectic, at 9 months old.....Club trainer stated not to be concerned as most of the working lines have it in them and the anxiousness she was having , at this level of training , had brought it., on , so did she get slammed with an excuse and should she send this pup back to the man she got her from, now that she is now with a notable kennel doing more titles and she has her kk1....? both Dam and Sire of my males are kk1 also     Does that now make these pups unbreed worthy and their parents also? Should the breeders of these dogs be told their pair produced a pup with dermadectic and where do they stand now , with a kk1,,,,,,,

the reason I ask this, is I hear every day on this post, people calling people that breed untitled, un koerd dogs and no ofa, byb;s and all kinds of names.....and if that be the case  ,,, what do u do when those titled koerd, dogs produce a pup with a defect?  I know kk1 is reviewed every 2 years unless they attain a lbz? right?

So at what point does a kk1 really tell you what the pair are going to produce??? Is it going to tell you about skin problems???

QUOTE: The pup my partner bought last June, also had a bout with Dermadectic, at 9 months old.....Club trainer stated not to be concerned as most of the working lines have it in them and the anxiousness she was having , at this level of training

OK, then why keep going if the dog is having that much anxiety??? What could possibly make anyone keep training a dog that is freaking out enough to show skin problems??? GET  ANOTHER  DOG.

My posts are not refering to any specific breeder, and not only that, I am not a big believer in titling females. I believe in training them to a point, but if she is a good producer, then that is what I concentrate on.

Crimmson,

I will be getting Jangles hips done soon!  From all outwardly apperances she is VERY healthy!  Great temperament and so so so willing to learn!  I really like her, personality and temperament wise she is one of the nicer dogs I have had!  It did not take long to bond with her and love her!  But, no allergies, can eat any food with out issues!  She is on the large size for my liking, since I am only 5ft 2in, I like a 55 to 60lb bitch but she is sooooooo nice in everyother way!  Even her structure is nice but she is just bigger than I would choose, but sometimes when a dog like this comes my way I just take what is there and I am pleased with her, not bad for a FREE DOG!

Vickie

www.PowerHausKennels.com

Jeff.

You must be independently wealthy to be able to "sue" everyone, the vet, the breeder, Kraftwerk...

Of course, he was vet certified, in both the US and Germany.  However, the certification doesn't include an endoscopy which we were told would have been necessary to have documented BEFORE he was shipped from Germany or at least before he left Kraftwerk to prove he had the disease.  (As if he somehow "caught" it on the plane ride out to us.)  We were told this by both the BBB and our credit card company.  Do you do this to your dogs?  I'd like to meet someone who does.

I have a brother who is a litigation attorney who said we would not break even in out-of-state attorney fees and expenses, even if we were reimbursed for our out-of-pocket expenses and granted punitive damages.  We had just finished a two-year battle over a property dispute in NJ, and though we won a large judgment against the township and a neighbor who had installed a drainage system on our property, we still ended up $10K in the hole because of attorneys fees.  We are all too cognizant of the costs of litigation, even if you are "right" and everyone agrees that you are.  You can still easily end up "losing".

Finally,  I hardly think what we did for almost four months was insignificant and ended by a little shove.  It was a pragmatic decision, based on the sum total of what we were dealing with in our lives totally.  I certainly don't apologize for it.  We were stupid and learned from it, something some people never do.  I guess my "dignity" is less easily damaged. 

QUOTE:  We were stupid

OK, so in the beginning, I was an idiot. funny how that changed. LOL  Just kidding. I will leave you be now.

Crimmson,

You are welcome to give us a shout we will help you with a pup if you want, imported or our breeding doesn't matter we will help? There is no reason to pay $2500+ for a pup when you can get the same if not better breedings for $1200-1800. To many nice breedings out there to choose from. Did you know some of the nicest bred pups in Germany are just 600 euro which converted at this point and time is $817.49 U.S. tack on 350 euro for shipping $476.87U.S. by my calculations thats $817.49+$476.87= $1294.36 so in a nutshell for $1300 give or take a little you can end up with a German bred pup straight from the heart of the sport. 

Now keep in mind there are negatives to..... you can get screwed by the people in Germany just like folks here in the good ol USA there is good and bad everywhere. Basically there is no need to pay $2500 for a pup, unless its a breeding your just dying to have and there are 50 other people wanting the pups as well. In that case its just a matter of paying premium to have what you want, but def not necessary though. So if you need a hand you can email us if you like info@HeimatKennels.com or call 479-644-9620 our website is www.HeimatKennels.com

thanks, Carrie and Nathan

Curry collects nice bloodlines.  He has a ncie website.  People surfing for a dog are impressed.  He has credentials.  He appears to be very sucessful.  His dogs are all titled, koered and he hits all the key marketing points - DDR "rare" black sables BSP connections.  On paper they are superior to most litters in the US from untitled and sch1 dogs.  It is customer service that is the problem .   And integrity.  And ethics.  Not the dogs themselves.

Ok here is the secret!! It is not the dog, it's the character and integrity of the breeder/broker!! A website may look perfect, the dogs may look good, pedigree, titles, breed survey, hip rating proper wording of the description..... And Bamm, you're in business....

I think this is one reason you should always look at breeders within driving distance. If you are a person that does not have a good judge of character bring someone who is better with people!!!! You look at the puppies and your people person can look/listen to the breeder!!

Less about the dogs and more about the person!!!! You'll always get a better product no matter what it is....

Good Luck.