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by usimports on 15 June 2007 - 18:06
I am in full agreement with Echo on what a BYB could be.......
"Backyard Breeder, Breeds Dogs for Cash and NO more... Does not pay any attention to Pedigrees or even paperwork, has no contract, does not vaccinate, deworm, health check, microchip, or Guarantee anything, does not even keep track of where or who the pups go, and does not ever take a pup back, and never offers a refund or replacement. Does not care to spend time with people purchasing pups before or after the purchase. Does not keep in touch with buyers. Does not breed sound dogs, ie health, temperament, structure, drive. Does not have asspirations of training, showing, titleing, or other. Does not prescreen at all, only cares to make a sale, breeds bitch every time she is in heat, does not test for brucella, or other detremental health conditions, does not xray large breeds for hips/elbows, does not xray small breeds for patella, or knee's, Does not socialize dogs or pups, Breeds a dog that is prone to bloat, has seizures, and other debilitating health issues that are considered hereditary (and they usually don't even know this). Does not know or care weather or not the person is a match to the pup/dog, Only cares about the all mighty dollar the dog can make them. That is my definition of a BYB, But I'm sure you'll have several other's I am anxious to read what others perspectives and definitions are"

by yellowrose of Texas on 15 June 2007 - 20:06
USIMPORTS : I dont think you left any stones untrurned....couldn't add another word to your excellent post......

by yellowrose of Texas on 15 June 2007 - 20:06
And it doesnt have anything to do with a back yard,,,,,its called professionalism" We have great people with one dam and one sire and a nice home, and have just titled and kk their gsds and raise a litter or two and do it with "professional integrity and love of the Breed" and may breed all the time and go on to another pair of gsd to produce what they intend out of what they research and want to the standard of GSD . "
You dont have to have a mansion on the hilltop or a 9 stall kennel to be a "breeder" backyard is simply a term for what usimports described... just like a Doctor that graduates and either goes into private practice, or joins a firm of doctors already in place in community, or choses to join a hospital or a large conglomorate of Doctors....doesnt make him a backyard Doctor unless he abuses his title and gets kicked out of the profession.....then he heads for the border...or prison...

by susie on 15 June 2007 - 20:06
Spook for President!
(picture from aniwa.com )

by yellowrose of Texas on 15 June 2007 - 21:06
Someone clue me?
by amysue on 15 June 2007 - 21:06
Yeah... I don't find "backyard" a fitting word either as irresponsible breeders come in many shapes and forms and varying degrees of lack of responsibility. When I hear BYB... I think of those with puppymiller mentality of getting money out of their dogs because they have papers, which EchoMeadows described very well... but I also think of the many people out there who happen to have a papered female (sometimes the male as well) and want to have a litter or litters and sale the pups for what they bought their dog(s) for and don't know the first thing about what makes their dog better than others of their breed. I particularly see this with lab owners... probably because there are so many of them and many of them seem to be great dogs. Some of these people do treat their dogs very well and attempt to do the best for the pups, but are actually doing a disservice to their breed. Everything is subjective and I do not mean to offend anyone.

by susie on 15 June 2007 - 21:06
Sorry, yellow, but sometimes I love his / hers(?) sarcasm...

by sueincc on 15 June 2007 - 22:06
Nice analogy, Yellow Rose, except unfortunately breeders don't take an oath to "first do no harm".

by yellowrose of Texas on 15 June 2007 - 23:06
Id like to harm a few people that have bought pups from me, only a few!
by EchoMeadows on 16 June 2007 - 01:06
Some don't even take the "oath" Be responsible for what I create.... and are still considered "Responsible" ??? I have a personal issue with that myself.
Are those people being asked to STOP breeding ??
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