Oli!!!! Please - Page 2

Don, yes you do need a time-out if you don't see anything wrong with a boy wearing this stupid t-shirt with the four-letter word on it. I wonder what kind of person the poster is.

As to the other photos: This is a GSD site and people wishing to showcase themselves should do so at sites such as myspace.com etc. They can just send links to selected people they wish to expose themselves to. That way, my 9 year old daughter does not  have to look at that.

And btw, I did grow up in Germany and yes, it is normal to have bare-chested (not nude) women sunning themselves at public pools. But that is there they are, not anywhere else. They would get arrested in other public places, just like overhere. There is a place and time for everything. And you are right, nudity is considered normal, especially among little kids. But it certainly is not normal that an approximately 12 year old boy is offering himself by wearing that shirt. It also speaks volumes that nobody objected to it in the thread in question.

Please answer that question to me: If you have underaged kids, how do you explain that pose to them? As a normal occurance? Oh my!

Chris

Silbersee

We have many advances in technology.  For all I know, the kid is wearing a plain t-shirt and someone pasted it on.  I own a shirt I bought in Colorado.  The shirt is from the most photographed store in America.  on the top it readss the store name, Beaver Liquors.  Now, I don't wear this to church on Monday, Wednesday, Saturday, or Sunday.  It is merely a shirt I wear between showering and bed.  I have two kids.  I think they are bright enough to know right and wrong.  Not because they have never seen the wrong, but because We have shown them the difference. 

What we say and do is a reflection of ourselves.  I think one should keep in mind that to many the words and the pictures are offensive and even if these people are in the minority it would be common civil courtesy to respect this, and show some self-restraint. 

I have three grown sons that rarely cuss.  While bringing them up, I did not use profanity unless I was really mad, like hitting my finger with a hammer.  If they used profanity, I more or less ignored it.  I let them know that it is not the words you use, it is the message you convey.  I, and many others here, could tear someone a new (insert bad word here), without using a four letter word at all.

The only bad words I would not tolerate with my sons was if they used the Lords name in vain.  The I let them know how dissapointed in them I was.  I did not punish them for it, just showed my disdain and lack of respect for them, at that moment.

If you think that your teenage children are fazed in the least when they see a four letter word, you are mistaken.  A perfect example is the four letter word "shit".  When I was a child, I literally had my mouth washed out with soap by my school assistant principal, for using that word.  Why is it so bad?  It is a noun and used all over the world now, by otherwise, very proper people.  Even Forrest Gump used it, and the world loved him.  If we ignore the words being bandied about on cell phone text messages, wall graphitti, comedians, movies, etc., they will lose their bad word aspect, and just be another word.  It's like when your child strikes out in baseball.  Act like you didn't even notice it and your child will be better in the long run for it.  Worked for me.

It is about the message you are conveying, not about which words you use.  IMO.  Pictures are another thing though.  With them, it is also about the message you are conveying and one is worth a thousand words, they say.

In all honesty, being a Mother and Christian, I too thought that the picture in question was in bad taste.  However, I must admit that I understand what Don and DRFNO are trying to say.  I have a 3 yr old and a 12 yr old and even though I wouldn't want them to look at images such as that one, I truly think they would laugh it off (at least the 12 yr old; the three yr old cannot  yet read) and just say something like, "how stupid". 

Society is rampant with ill used words, deplorable pictures and those who do not cover themselves up as some of us might wish they would.  However, our children will have to be prepared for this one day.  This is not saying that it is right.  And, I do agree that perhaps this board wasn't the proper place for that one picture.

That was a humorous thread, and I think it kinda pushed the envelope a little...not too much to do with GSDs....but it's good to laugh sometimes. The particular picture that is  in question was posted by someone who was questioning whether the thread was in good taste to begin with....I think they tried for the most offensive picture they could find/make...and they scored. Whenever my kids saw something of that nature we would talk about it, it was always good to know what they were thinking, it was a good way to measure where they were at with their values, and why...we had some of our best discussions that way, and I think my kids turned out well, with strong morals. I don't actually think that the rest of the world is as prudish as we Americans can be, with some exceptions. I am far more embarressed by some of the bigotted, superior remarks I read from posters from time to time. But, everyone's entitled to their opinions......contrasting viewpoints are what make the world go 'round....jo

Well, if Islam rules America, there will be no more ladies in swim suits or fun times on the beaches. Cowboy Up !!

I just wanna know something....was it REALLY about the picture or perhaps something personal towards the poster (wasn't me btw)?  Agreed the thread was unrelated to GSD's but most of the people who participated found humor in it.  Adult humor at times but it was funny.  I don't  think anyone deliberlately intended to insult/offend any adults.  In fact it's rather simple to disengage yourself from something that doesn't interest you, you find "distasteful" and or "offensive"- you just CLICK and it goes away. 

On the other issue that pertains to children reading inappropriate things on the internet...As a mother of 3 girls and a step son all under the age of 13 I have to agree with Don in his child rearing input.  I'm a strict parent and personally do not feel it to be appropriate for my children in particular to have full rein on ANY message board that is geared towards adults period.  With supervision you can avoid having to deal with children seeing inappropriate things that may be awkward to explain at a young age.  Having that said sheltering them or making them feel like a girl in a bathing suit is "taboo" also is ridiculous. If that's the case then we should ban them from tv, teen magazines, or even the Sunday department store circulars.  If you think what was posted in a thread on the database was too "explicit" then you probably don't want to know what your children are talking about on the bus or playground with their friends when you're not around.