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His contracts on his puppies is not very good. He is not a very good person to do business with. I bought a 8 week old puppy from him that came with coccidiosis and only one testicle down. The other one never came down. Not bad for 2500.00 huh? LOL

Hey guys,

I recently aquired a Kraftwerk dog, she is about 2.5 years old and she is a quality bitch!  I will get her OFA done and will start working her in Schutzhund soon!  I have started to do a little obedience with her and she is extremely smart and willing to learn!  I was actually impressed!  This bitch was from a guy that bought 2 dogs from Kraftwerk, a male and a female, and thought he would breed them and make money with all those $2,500 puppies!  Well, he did not title, OFA or do anything with the dogs, except stick them in the back yard and let them breed!  What bugs me most about this dog is that the guy gave her a stupid name!! She is a "Z" litter puppy but he didn't want to name her with a "Z" name so he named her ZJangles Wagner vom Kraftwerk, UGH!  She has had one litter and then he could not sell the puppies for even $800, go figure!  There was just not the market here for dogs of that kind of money with no titles and no health certifications!  Anyway, could not keep her due to a back injury so I aquired her, and she is VERY nice!  She is a Olix Karthago grand daughter on the sire's side and a Wumm v.d. Kaisersaule grand daughter on the mother's side, so she is nicely bred, I think she is anyway!  I like these lines too!  And is the sweetest dog ever, she is so sweet!!!!!!

Well, that is what I know and good luck with whatever you decide!

Vickie

www.PowerHausKennels.com

Alphapup.

He was initially incorrectly diagnosed with EPI by his first vet.  Second vet ruled it out with blood tests.  Third vet, a gastroenterologist , did an endoscopy with biopsies for a definitive diagnosis.  He was found to have lymphocytic and eosinophilic IBD and lymphangaectasia, as well as a B12 deficiency and chronic SIBO (small intestine bacterial overgrowth) which often occurs with both IBD and EPI and is very common in GSDs.

 It took about four months to finally find out what his problems were and devise a treatment plan. We have had to educate ourselves to be able to care for him and administer the appropriate medications.  However, at the end of the day, all it really means is that we paid an exhorbitant amount of money for a really sick dog and had no recourse.  It would be a crime to breed him and pass all this along to someone else, but aside from the really bad gut, he is all we could ask for in a dog and then some.  Kraftwerk and Curry could not have been unaware that he was a very sick dog.  They may not have known what his problem was, but it was apparent he was not well, and they shipped him anyway and then disavowed any responsibility after he was finally diagnosed.  I question how they handle anyone else's problem animal.

Out of curiousity, I looked at the website today and it's filled with more trained dogs than usual and about half a dozen litters of puppies with more on the way.  I don't know if this means business is good or bad, I just know he won't get any more from us and perhaps someone will learn from our experience to think twice.

just a note,

coccidia is everywhere, in almost every dog.  it is carried and pass along by birds, flys and multiple other animals.  The stress of you, the travels and the pups new surroundings bring on the "breakout"

Proper vet care is soo important.  Vets have to make money, and they do that buy selling you a sickness, then treatment, then medicine, then food so you have to continue to return to their office and pay them every month.  This is very smart for business, but is attacking the soft core of human nature.  Not every vet is like this, but mis diagnosis and expensive treatment happens all the time.  It is very important to develop a friendship with your vet, if at all possible, to make sure that this is not happening to you.

If your dog arrives to you from a good reputable breeder, not to say the one this topic is about is good or bad, and you think it is terribly thin and you vet agrees, you probably both have fat eyes.  Americans today, myself included sometimes, see so many overwieght dogs that we think that is how they are supposed to look.  You should see ribs, that is normal!  I am not trying to say that anyone here was wrong about their dog, I wouldnt have a clue considering I didn't see it, but I hear this more than often from adult dog purchasers and it drives me crazy.

Karmen:

I don't have a problem feeding raw, however because of his combination of problems, it will not work for him.  He can not process anything high in fat or fiber and the bacteria in raw aggravates his SIBO.  His dose of pred is now very low and we have his bloodwork done quarterly to monitor his liver values which are all within normal range.  We have "lived" this with him for over a year and a half and tried a number of things, including reducing his meds significantly with disasterous results.  While I'm sure you are well intentioned, in his case the meds are necessary to keep him alive and attacking a situation you are unfamiliar with is naive and unkind.

DoubleX,

I did not attack your sitation, merely stating some advice that a holisic diet and regime would be the route I would do with this dog. I have personally seen the effects up close and personal with long term pred and if it's not the disease that kills the dog, it's the meds.  Sorry you mistook my post as an attack, it was not.  I am familar with the disease your dog has, I worked for a vet for 8 years and saw dogs with this disease and EPI and the turn good turn around the dogs did on a holistic raw diet and supplements such as probiotics.  Good luck with your dog.

Karmen

Karmen.

Since you worked for a vet,  you are obviously aware how insidious a disease IBD is.  Part of the difficulty in treating it is that it is really not a "disease" you can treat like diabetes or hypothyroidism, but a complicated group of symptoms with various causes in various places up and down the gi tract, and often a dog will have multiple problems.    As a result, each dog must be individually diagnosed and treated, often on a trial and error basis.  What works for one may have dire results for another.  I have belonged to an IBD list for over a year and the solutions are varied and may work for only a limited period of time.  All of us have spent countless hours and thousands of dollars to try to save our dogs.  The stories are heartbreaking.

However, this thread has strayed from the original question posed by Crimsonribbon about doing business with KraftwerkK9 and Wayne Curry.   I would not.

DoubleX

Here we go, this is the kind of crap that raises my blood pressure to rediculous levels.

Quote: Of course, after caring for this beautiful animal for months, we would never have given him up

Are you nuts?? If I sold you a peice of junk car, would you keep it??? Yes YES I just compared a dog to a car. they are a means to an ends and all this emotion just screws the dog buyers up. If we sent back all the junk dogs that breeders or importers sell, regardless of if they get money back or not you could shut them down. They don't have enough room to keep them all.

Again, this is in general, and I am not talking about any specific breeder or importer. You are being irresponsible by keeping the "problem" instead of sending it back.

This is where the two words go into play and those two words are    "TOUGH LOVE"    . Too bad dogs cant write their own   LIVING WILLS>>>>

Jeff.

I will take a deep breath before I tell you that you are an idiot.  In theory, objectively, I agree with you.   I used to buy production parts for a large consumer products company, and I sent plenty of garbage back.  However, a dog is not a gasket or a fan belt, and we were not buying the dog purely as an arms-length economic transaction, nor were we going to right the American economic system by shipping him back.  Instead, for many weeks we relied on information from Kraftwerk that it was the stress of travel, worms, giardia, etc., all of which are easily treatable.   Unfortunately, we had just moved here from out of state and were using a completely new local vet who proved to be inept.  So it took us several months before our dog was accurately diagnosed.

If after caring for a sick dog for that long, you could dump him in a crate, ship him back across the country to an uncertain fate and live with yourself, then your approach to raising dogs is different from ours.  We did not buy him to make money off him or impress anyone.  We bought him to add to our "family", as sappy as that may seem to you.   If Curry skates on his one, hopefully the bad karma will nail him next time.  We have certainly learned from it and won't be conned again.  It was a bad transaction, no doubt, but punishing the dog wouldn't have made it any better.  It has been a struggle, but we have been able to take care of him for a year and a half and I have never had a more devoted animal.  I guess we'll just have to settle for that.