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by Bavarian Wagon on 03 October 2016 - 20:10

Go to the FCI IPO World Championships sites (there's just one site though so I don't know why you'd need multiple or where you'd even find them) and let me know who WON the last two years.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 03 October 2016 - 23:10

Czech, Slovak, and Swiss dogs were competitive in the IPO game at the most recent FCI WORLD IPO some were GSD ... Germany finished 4th and the USA 6th ... what breed of dogs did most countries including the USA and Germany send in the last 3 years?? IPO is a big pretend game and it slights and diminishes the most important dogs needed for breeding better dogs of any breed ... the females. Go to any IPO contest and 80% will be males regardless of breed of dog or organization .... you can't be for breeding better dogs if you leave out the females. In Beagles the females are usually the fastest and best trackers so perhaps the OP didn't know that females get ignored for the promotion of stud fees for the dog du jour in IPO. Titles and plastic trophies do not tell anyone what the dogs will produce as breeding stock.

Koots

by Koots on 04 October 2016 - 04:10

Bubba -  "Titles and plastic trophies do not tell anyone what the dogs will produce as breeding stock."

No, but the work involved in achieving those titles with your dog(s) will tell you A LOT about said dog(s), and yourself. There is no better way to assess what character a dog has than by the rigorous and demanding training that is involved to achieve a sport title.


by gsdstudent on 04 October 2016 - 11:10

stand back and watch the troll feed

mrdarcy (admin)

by mrdarcy on 04 October 2016 - 12:10

Never mind standing back. Bubbabooboo, take this as your one and only warning stop the ranting now. We have read it all too many times, we know what you think, we don't need to read it over again!!

Get back to the original topic, if you can't advise then zip it!!!

by Bavarian Wagon on 04 October 2016 - 14:10

Go to club, train your dog, without the intention of breeding. Keep your mind open and objective about what you see in front of you. Go to different clubs, work with different people to learn different opinions and different thoughts about dog training and what a good GSD should exhibit. Work with currently successful people, either those training and competing at high levels or those that are successfully placing puppies which are getting trained and trialed successfully.

Just getting into it, you’re not very likely to get the perfect breeding dog. Maybe she’ll turn out, maybe she won’t. First dogs also take much longer to title and train because you don’t know what you’re doing yourself. Just get into it and start learning, won’t take long, but don’t have breeding as the ultimate goal.

There are like 5-10 major studs in the United States right now that can basically “guarantee” that your puppy will at least be capable of titling. Depending on where you are and how far you’re willing to travel/ship you can pick litters from any one of them and know that you’ll have a good time at club and also know that your dog will not be the reason you’re held back.

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 04 October 2016 - 16:10

www.awdf.net
Link to the US FCI IPO team 2016
I suggest you consider contacting these individuals if the reason for your breeding program is competing in IPO .. pic of the 2016 team below .. Ivan Balabanov is the most successful IPO competitor and breeder of IPO competition dogs in the USA .. Ivan has bred some of the dogs on the 2016 team from the USA 

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by Bavarian Wagon on 04 October 2016 - 16:10

Thanks for the link. I was there. I saw the team qualify. But you still haven't answered who won the FCI IPO world championship. All the googling you're doing to skirt around the subject, you can easily just let us all know what dog and breed won the world championship the last two years. Hint: it was the same dog.

by gsdstudent on 04 October 2016 - 16:10

I trust the OP has found some direction from the post that answered their request. Did you?

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 04 October 2016 - 20:10

Mod edit...If you have something to say about my moderating do so in a PM. (mrdarcy) I gave the OP some breeders to contact ... I suggest those who know 10 stud dogs that guarantee titles to list these wonder dogs but I suggest the buyer get that in writing on the breeding contract. When there is 10 points ( 273-283) between the top 20 dogs such as the 2016 FCI world's in Slovakia and the top scorer and winning team has home court advantage (Slovakia) then as I earlier stated the titles and points are more about politics and trainers than dog genetics that can be passed to any offspring.






 


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