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by alboe2009 on 24 February 2011 - 03:02
Excellent video............. One it shows the FOCUS at an early age. Hard to tell but I'd say that pup is 3-5 mos. old. Focus, especially towards the end when the pup drops the puppy tug to engage the suit jacket, excellemt.
IMO also, this is a perfect example to the individuals or OPs that question if a pup can even begin training, has enough focus to train, or when one should begin training. Or for those that think training can't/shouldn't take place til 1 yoa. Also, for that question "how to do it/what to do?"
by LoyalGuardian on 24 February 2011 - 04:02
Our K9 counterparts are as we all know, "Pack Animals" ... In the pack there is play. This play is vital, for it is within this play that they learn their life long survival skills. As such, we as Handlers/Owners/Trainers would do well in understand this drive (often referred to by a many of trainers as prey drive)(another topic all together)... It's my opinion that many times this (play drive) is misinterpreted by my fellow trainers out there, or referred to as PREY DRIVE ... In Prey it is an animals instinct to chase-capture-kill-& Eat!!! ... This, is true prey drive ... Again, only of my opinion, but this prey drive is stimulated by hunger, yet another drive we refer to when training (food drive) ... Well before I get to far off track, all this is to lead to this ... I feel it is not only safe to sleeve your young dog, but it is inessential they we, as part of our dog's pack share this "PLAY" with our dogs ...It not only offer us the tools for bite development(mindful of course as to HOW we use the sleeve work for bite developments), but it also creates an ever so strong bond with our dogs ... What's the risk??? Well I see the biggest risk as being that of creating such a bond that our dog would rather "play" with us, as oppose to working with the trainer decoy ... OK, this said, please allow me to follow up with this ... I personally have seen this behavior, but in as such I later find that I have a many of times overlooked a vital observation ... This would be one of a dog's nerve. Many times a dog of weaker nerve, and under the stresses of bite work will result back to it's foundation, and herein falls back to playing the game with you, it's pack member, which is far less stressful than Working before a Trainer/ Decoy ... Should we find this to be that of the true culprit, then there is a number of things that I think we should consider ... First where is the stress rooted? Is there conflict? Is it genetic? DO we have courage, but lack confidence? ... Well taking these items into consideration, we can better formulate a plan of attack in where the necessary corrections / Training can be implemented.
Respectfully Intended,
Joseph Rodrick
LoyalGuardians K9's
www.loyalguardiansk9s.com
by judron55 on 24 February 2011 - 15:02
It is a lot easier to get hurt with a Mali or dutch if you try to do bitework on yourself than it is with many GSDs IMO.
hmmmm...me don't think so...IMNSHO..I did all the helper work on my first Mali....why are they any different than a shepherd when it comes to working your own dog????
by malndobe on 24 February 2011 - 15:02
Monkey's name is actually Balzac, and Francis has a lot of videos of him online, he's maturing into a super nice dog. I don't remember if it's E'Balzac, it was the E year (I have his sister Extra, only way I remember that). The interesting thing in that video is that the person doing the decoy work (Francis Metcalf) is actually the owner of the dog now LOL I think he aquired him around 4 or 5 months old. So for people worried about it, I guess you can do the foundation work on your dog if you know what you are doing :-)
I've done the foundation work on quite a few of my dogs. Just depends on the dogs personality, some I've worked on and off throughout their entire career, others I don't work so we don't blur the line between when it is and isn't OK to bite me.
by SportySchGuy on 24 February 2011 - 15:02
by Ace952 on 24 February 2011 - 16:02
by Ace952 on 24 February 2011 - 16:02
I know many people say that sleeving your own dog or other things can confuse a dog. Within the same breath we all say that GSD's are very smart (some say the smartest) dogs out there and so how can they be so confused but yet so smart? One would think if they are so smart and so clear headed they should know the difference. Correct or incorrect?
by MAINLYMAX on 24 February 2011 - 17:02
I would say the Ideal is to start the dog off with
the handler being the handler and the decoy being the decoy.
Champion trainers are not necessarily smarter than every one else,
they just remove all the variables. And also start with well bred dogs.
Remember anything you use that is not in keeping with the
training program that you have in mind for your dog, will have to
be phased out later. This takes time and may slows down
your dogs progress.....General rule of thumb is to keep it simple
and let the dog grow into a well trained dog by laying the steps
for him perfectly.....This is only the Ideal, there are many variables.
I like your breeding program and the way you try be involved with this
breed Malindobe....Very good.
I hope more people will take a look at the video.
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