Long Coat or very plush - Page 3

People are just unbeleivable.Get a puppy and then dump him just like that.Now would'nt it be better to just NOT give people like this dogs in the first place?And yes i could just hear some of the replies.I beleive if a breder does his OR her qualifications properly instead of thinking just dollars that this would not happen as much.Have a nice day and good luck to you and the puppy waya and gimme10.Have fun with these pups.

The Above Photo was when Goran was a Baby, you can see he is a long coat, But he is a very intelligent little Dog

Good on obedinence but slow on the uptake in protection, at the moment,  Certainly not like Fred, he is the opposite of Goran on the Protection

Steve

 I would say definitly a long coat.  The feathers around the ears..usually (and everybody knows anything can happen in life!!) around 99% times it is a long coat..

Molly,

You said long stock coat could ot be shown or bred...

They can't be shown (and it is about to change ) but you can breed them.  If you use a non carrier on it all your pups will be short coat..and then you show them!

Not too sure who invented this term PLUSH COAT but correct me if i am wrong it is a correct coat or a long coat!!

Some varying degree's of correct i.e lacking coat,but the correct coat should be dense

Same as semi long coats,sorry but it is either a log coat or or a correct coat (not a semi) i know what people mean when refering to it but im sure Hidie will agree with me on this.

Long coat or correct, or have i lost the plot here

Remember this pup? Maybe this will help watching her developement,  this pup pictured at 19 days, 4 weeks, 6 weeks, 10 weeks and 16 weeks

Buzz- you are 100% correct. There is stock coat and long stock coat.  This puppy pictured is a long stock coat.

<<Molly,

You said long stock coat could ot be shown or bred...

They can't be shown (and it is about to change ) but you can breed them.  If you use a non carrier on it all your pups will be short coat..and then you show them!>>

you cannot breed them according to the rules of SV (which I and many others follow) which requires a conformation rating of at least G (which long-coats are not able to get), Schh1 and passing hips before litters can be registered.  Yes, physically they can be bred as you say, if you are not concerned with breeding a fault.

molly

A lot has been said about Long Coats and there not so good attributes on several threads on the forum

Can any of you guys tell me what they are good for except to be a campanion house Dog because i do not see what else they are good for regarding this type  coat on the dog

A funny thing is Genes,

but take us humans we are a best mixed lot of inbreds and crossbreds, Some of us near on mixed up in a bucket not once but twice or more

Yet we condemn a Dog from being show and bred from because it carries the Gene for a long coat or is a long coat in the case of being shown, rules just a few make up but they remain aas if wrote in blood

All these threads on this forum regarding poltices, the wrongs against Wolves etc comes down to the fact that the human race will pick faults on other species and things,

but not on us Humans what suits us in our own world goes, but not when we have control of other species they must live by the rules of Man

who is the Hypocrite, we are of course

and what makes what we say right

Some of you may not get the gist of what i have wrote but it is 100% true

Steve

Have DNA done and you will know for sure if it's a genetic coat or carrier. In some breeds the breeders are getting surprises when the dogs with the longest coats are testing as carriers while dogs with shorter coats are testing as longcoats. The big difference is that while carriers will produce fewer carriers, all puppies sired by longcoats will be carriers. Bottom line - I think the only way to be sure if you have a coat, plush or carrier is DNA. I'll also stick my neck out and say I'd also wager than most if not all plushes will either test as longcoats or carriers. Has anyone had the DNA done and were the results what you expected?